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Old 04-27-2020, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
I was on an ORD freight ramp about a week ago. There were two DAL 773s parked there, doing a freight leg. Interesting sight...
Yeah, interesting sight to see a mythical Delta 773.
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Old 04-27-2020, 05:34 AM
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Yeah, interesting sight to see a mythical Delta 773.

It’s rumored they only appear during great times of despair.

Truly a blessing to see them right now
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Old 04-28-2020, 09:30 AM
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Does First Class Packaging end up in those Delta One Suites or whatever they’re called. Lie Flat Seats can carry more and you can adjust them to fit the package perhaps. Silly me, seats are gone now perhaps. Overhead bins mere child’s play.

The FAA has issued guidance to airlines who want to take the seats out of idle aircraft and fill them with cargo.” AVweb

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Old 04-28-2020, 12:26 PM
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Where do I draw the line? In the company FOM, where it clearly states changing one's shirt is acceptable. Nowhere in the FOM are jammies, slippers or gym gear mentioned.
in the Air Force, unless it’s specifically allowed, you’d can’t do it.
in the Navy, unless it’s specifically prohibited, you CAN do it.

does your FOM prohibit any of your other choices?

maybe you just like to spend your layovers by yourself.
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Old 04-28-2020, 06:33 PM
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We (United) are starting to put cargo (nets being used as well as overhead bins I believe but no seat removal) in the cabins of 777/787/737 as well as the belly on cargo only flights. 2 flight attendants required on 737 and 4 on the wide bodies when cargo in cabin. Pilots rejoice as we have proven to be incapable of running the ovens and properly setting up trays with all courses etc by ourselves. Flight attendants will be there to serve as warning/suppression as our cabins lack detection and suppression in this regard. They are super excited about the easy gig I hear. Trips to central/South America as well as Europe/Asia. Helps slow the bleeding a bit at best and not forecasted to last but a few months as cargo demand is expected to fall off with economic recession and resumption of more passenger flights with belly freight opportunity resuming this Fall.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:27 AM
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It stands to reason. I'm wondering though, is this whole C19 experience going to bring about a popular revolution against the excesses of our postmodern society? Even without an organized movement? Retail spending is way down, and consumerism in general. Could it be that people get used to it, realize that not actually missing out ? If so, flow on effects would probably reduce the demand for airfreight because the "instant gratification" desires maybe stifled. There are many moving parts, I've just been postulating some of the possibilities.
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:42 AM
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Personally I find the whole Pax flying cargo now horsecrap.
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest View Post
We (United) are starting to put cargo (nets being used as well as overhead bins I believe but no seat removal) in the cabins of 777/787/737 as well as the belly on cargo only flights. 2 flight attendants required on 737 and 4 on the wide bodies when cargo in cabin. Pilots rejoice as we have proven to be incapable of running the ovens and properly setting up trays with all courses etc by ourselves. Flight attendants will be there to serve as warning/suppression as our cabins lack detection and suppression in this regard. They are super excited about the easy gig I hear. Trips to central/South America as well as Europe/Asia. Helps slow the bleeding a bit at best and not forecasted to last but a few months as cargo demand is expected to fall off with economic recession and resumption of more passenger flights with belly freight opportunity resuming this Fall.
By the time the pax carriers spool up on cargo we will be deep in a economic tail spin like this country has not seen. Freight will fall off along with it. Nobody will be spending money on anything other than toilet paper and food. Cargo will be parking aircraft and furloughing also. Cargo can't help the pax industry. And they certainly will not be able to compete with the ACMI world on price. Knee jerk reaction. Somebody has not thought it through.
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In this thread we see the people who care more about "how things look" than "how things are".
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
By the time the pax carriers spool up on cargo we will be deep in a economic tail spin like this country has not seen. Freight will fall off along with it. Nobody will be spending money on anything other than toilet paper and food. Cargo will be parking aircraft and furloughing also. Cargo can't help the pax industry. And they certainly will not be able to compete with the ACMI world on price. Knee jerk reaction. Somebody has not thought it through.
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I guess you didn’t read my full post? We are already “spooled”as much as we plan to be. I clearly stated it was only planned for a few months as the cargo revenue seen today is fully expected by my airline to fall off and we will discontinue cargo ops at that time.
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