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Old 01-15-2026 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
Adding 500 block hours of trips requiring ROs will do that, as will additional FO attrition (3 in January that I know of).

Am I to take from this that you are now unhappy that the company is pursuing additional business? Are you now pining for the days of stagnation and a shrinking fleet?
Not to mention the addition of MSP by DHL and the additional flying supporting UPS.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shuttledriver67
Does this mean a new-hire can expect to be on reserve a short amount of time/have plenty of open time opportunities?
FO premium is rare. Open time for straight pay, mixed bag.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
Adding 500 block hours of trips requiring ROs will do that, as will additional FO attrition (3 in January that I know of).

Am I to take from this that you are now unhappy that the company is pursuing additional business? Are you now pining for the days of stagnation and a shrinking fleet?
What exactly is additional business? We're doing routes for jets that are in for heavy checks. I can verify it personally, I witnessed 21Air at MSP. We all know how this works. We'll recover for (insert ACMI) and be done in a few months. Let's not pretend that we are not a recovery airline. I hope it changes, I also WILL NOT hold my breath. The superiority complex is insane at ABX. We're still one of the lowest paid ACMIs. 21 beats us there AND has home basing. Yes, we have a much better 401k. Instead of pushing for better, we're walking the fine line of Stockholm Syndrome. Further, flower season is exactly that- flower season. Good to see that we actually got a "sales department" though.
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Old 01-17-2026 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Boats N Flows
What exactly is additional business?
Quito & Medellin - 500 hours in two weeks in January/February and coming up again in May. UPS through the end of March.

We're doing routes for jets that are in for heavy checks. I can verify it personally, I witnessed 21Air at MSP. We all know how this works. We'll recover for (insert ACMI) and be done in a few months. Let's not pretend that we are not a recovery airline.
I know the deal with MSP. Recoveries and covering heavy checks are the whole reason we have the GTs - they are DHL dedicated spares. DHL owns them and placed them with us for that specific purpose. Would you rather we didn't do that? We could just tell DHL we're done doing recoveries, let 21Air do them instead, and we can pare down our crew numbers by about 20 pilots or so. That should really improve the red/green calendar.

I hope it changes, I also WILL NOT hold my breath.
I have bad news. It's not going to change. This is the nature of the ACMI business. Contracts begin and end. Destinations change. Charters come and go. Get used to it or find something you like better.

The superiority complex is insane at ABX.
I have heard many stories of former ABX pilots who went to places like American, United, Southwest and UPS who wish they had never left. Most of us who are sticking around for an extended time have surveyed the landscape and judged ABX to be the best deal around, so...yeah. If it makes you crazy, well, tough. Deal with it.

We're still one of the lowest paid ACMIs.
Based on available information, our rates look comparable to Atlas.

21 beats us there AND has home basing. Yes, we have a much better 401k.
There is a lot more to compensation than rates and guarantees. We're all in the same business, flying the same type aircraft to the same places for the same customer. What they give in one place, they have to take from another. But if you think it looks that good, have you applied there?

There was another company once on the DHL ramp that signed a big contract with their pilots. The base pay was huge. Has anyone heard from them lately?

Instead of pushing for better, we're walking the fine line of Stockholm Syndrome.
Are you unaware that the union meets twice a year with management to discuss items of interest on both sides? It's how we got R1 lines (for those who like that sort of thing), a significant improvement to short-term disability, and got the company to at least try long call reserve. We're pushing for better, but the company doesn't simply hand us whatever we want just for asking.

Why are you at ABX? Why are you still at ABX? You clearly hate it.

Life is too short to be miserable in your job. I can only hope that you have applications out everywhere and that you'll soon be scooped up by Big Name Airline where you will be insanely happy, right up to the point where a four-day trip feels like the Bataan Death March, you're not the highest paid guy on the ramp anymore, you're 5 years into negotiations with no end in sight and you discover that you're dealing with exactly the same problems as when you were at ABX.

Bon voyage and bon chance.
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Old 01-17-2026 | 04:53 PM
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Could there ever be a point in time where MIA re-opens as a base?
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Old 01-26-2026 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shuttledriver67
Could there ever be a point in time where MIA re-opens as a base?
I consider that highly unlikely. None of our Miami flying (or anywhere else for that matter) can ever be considered permanent. It changes constantly with customer demand.
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Old 01-26-2026 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Alaska management is trying to renegotiate the contract and they go from “it’s not working for us,” to “we are making great progress with Amazon” every other week. They also state Amazon loves us, but it doesn’t sound mutual for both companies bottom line.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/al...executive-says

This isn't anything we didn't already know. It's just in print now.

My guess is that Alaska pilots will not ratify a JCBA that gives up enough to make a deal that Amazon will find palatable, and Amazon will not pay up just for the sake of having one more airline in the mix.
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Old 01-26-2026 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/al...executive-says

This isn't anything we didn't already know. It's just in print now.

My guess is that Alaska pilots will not ratify a JCBA that gives up enough to make a deal that Amazon will find palatable, and Amazon will not pay up just for the sake of having one more airline in the mix.
So 330's by summer?
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Old 01-26-2026 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shuttledriver67
So 330's by summer?
Place your bets. See if you can get Kalshi to set it up.
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Old 01-27-2026 | 01:46 PM
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So how much flying do we think we will be keeping for the foreseeable future with the UPS news?
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