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Old 07-03-2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Falconjet
They can't junior man us unless we vote for the LOA.

No LOA, no junior manning.

Vote NO!

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i believe they can junior man an FDA 3 months at a time...and hire into an FDA...am i wrong?
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Old 07-03-2007 | 02:57 PM
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...am i wrong?

All the time.
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Old 07-03-2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
i believe they can junior man an FDA 3 months at a time...and hire into an FDA...am i wrong?
They can only juior man 3 months at a time if the LOA passes. Without it, there is no such thing as an STV (Should have been called an STD)
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Old 07-03-2007 | 04:10 PM
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I'll vote no strictly on the STV issue. Too much give to the company. I got out of the AF to avoid any more unaccompanied remotes. Can you imagine what the company would have done with STV during the last negotiations with the Subic FDA? guys would have been shanghaied (actually subiced) for months to thwart the slow down there. without STV i might vote yes. if people know the compensation being offered and bid it anyway (or hire on) then i say good for them. just not me.
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Old 07-04-2007 | 03:33 AM
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Has anyone considered that the company is counting on Hillary becoming the next president. If that is the case, more people would probably be willing to put up with a bad LOA in order to get out to the country
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Old 07-04-2007 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1st overnite
Has anyone considered that the company is counting on Hillary becoming the next president. If that is the case, more people would probably be willing to put up with a bad LOA in order to get out to the country
I can't stand her either, but politics really ought to be kept out of the workplace.

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Old 07-04-2007 | 05:41 AM
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Here's a quick clip of what HKG 20,000 (US $2,666 - company offering $2,700) will get you ...
Hong Kong Apartment http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVtSvNTecvY

If you listen up, you can hear her say "540 sq. ft., 20,000". She later cut off the video, saying prior permission of the owner was needed. So, there's your freaking "luxury", folks ... note only 2 burners on the stove, mini-microwave, mini-fridge, kitchenette (and that's a stretch).

Can you hear me now?
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Old 07-04-2007 | 05:48 AM
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PS: You have to put up three months' rent in advance, PLUS pay the agent's commission of 5% of the annual rent (or 1/2 a month's rent, whichever is less). That's for a lease of over 3 months. For a short-term lease (3 months or less, the commission (out of YOUR pocket, folks), is 10% or 1/2 a month's rent. Did you also note the teeny little glass-top table? That's not a decor item, folks, that's your dining room table. So this is what Webb considers "luxury" digs in a "luxury area"? Spare me. Here's the link to that particular complex: http://conventionplazaapartments.com/ Check it out for yourself.
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Old 07-04-2007 | 06:30 AM
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Examples from that one complex: rent a basic 1-BR, HKG 25,000 (US $3,333/mo.); with any kind of a view that goes up to 38,000 ($5,067/mo.). To buy a 3-BR is HKG 19 million (US $2.5 million), and let's see how far your $1,200 buying allowance goes on that, huh? To rent a 3-BR is HKG 80K (nearly US $10.7K PER MONTH). Two-BR (rock-bottom for most of us) rents for HKG 46,000 (US $6,100+), for 1,200 sq.ft.

So, to move into a 3-BR, you're coughing up $32,000, PLUS the agent's fees, right up front. How's that $10K seed money look now? More than just a little anemic, isn't it?
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Old 07-04-2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Actually, I think it does. This tells me BC may not like this any more than we do. But he does have some fiduciary duties to fulfill. Perhaps he feels an obligation to go with the majority of the MEC and offer the LOA to the membership. In that situation talking bad about the LOA would be going against the will of the MEC. You get to a point performing your duties for the union where you have to put some personal feelings aside to do the job for everyone. But inside you hope the LOA will sell (or destroy) itself.

If this is the best he thinks he can get out of negotiations, he may be hoping for a big NO vote. Following the no vote he can go back to the company with a lot more bargaining power.

I know I don't know why it passed 11-1. I can't get inside the minds of the MEC. Maybe they aren't as obsessed with their own fate as I think. Maybe they really do believe we will be junior assigned and suffer a 10 yr greivance fight if we don't go for the LOA. And the greivance fight may go against us. While over 150 pilots live overseas without extra dough. This time the MEC may be really working for them. But it's hard to believe the boy who cried wolf one too many times.

But I can tell you one thing, this place will be changed forever. KD will be calling a lot more names for classes and interviews with many saying "NO". Every newhire is looking at a foreign domicile or 3 month "deployments" to said domiciles.

Additionally, while I would like to help out those in the pool I am more interested in helping out the junior bubbas on the property now.
Finally! Someone who gets it.
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