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07-12-2007, 01:50 PM
#4
Slainge Var'
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Zeppelin Tail Gunner
Posts: 1,530
Special Temporary Vacancies (STVs)[One of the concerns on this LOA we have heard from our members surrounds the ability of FedEx to inversely assign STV positions. While we acknowledge that it could happen, we do not think this will occur. The benefits of the STV are such that bid awards will likely go senior. While some of us may be unable or unwilling to accept an FDA assignment, others may desire the opportunity to take their spouse or entire families to either location, with roundtrip travel from their home to the foreign base paid by FedEx. We suspect there is a greater chance that junior pilots will not be able to hold the STVs than they will be inversed into them.]
This quote from LEC 22. Guys, there many be many things not to like about this LOA but for all those spun up over STV, I agree 100% with this assessment. If tomorrow, the Co said they needed 30 A-300 crews in HKG and CDG for 3 months, live in a hotel, int'l per diem, int'l override, round trip for family.......etc....it would go VERY senior. In fact, if there was a STV, many would vol back to back for months on end. The chance of some juniority guy getting tagged is way remote. So...vote against it for some other reason...this is a pig in a poke.
This quote from LEC 22. Guys, there many be many things not to like about this LOA but for all those spun up over STV, I agree 100% with this assessment. If tomorrow, the Co said they needed 30 A-300 crews in HKG and CDG for 3 months, live in a hotel, int'l per diem, int'l override, round trip for family.......etc....it would go VERY senior. In fact, if there was a STV, many would vol back to back for months on end. The chance of some juniority guy getting tagged is way remote. So...vote against it for some other reason...this is a pig in a poke.
07-12-2007, 01:56 PM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: Who knows...waiting for a bid
Posts: 379
AA
For that and that alone. The situation is just that if I have no choice, I get forced. Remote chance is not a 100% guarentee that I am not going to get forced to stay in Paris or Hong Kong. You can't offer me that protection, and this LOA opens that up. So unless that is changed, I am going to spread the word for that reason alone. I, like some of the other junior pilots, don't want to take the chance of being sent away from my family for three months because the bid was supposed to go senior.
Vote no for those guys in the bottom percentiles. STV=NO for me!
For that and that alone. The situation is just that if I have no choice, I get forced. Remote chance is not a 100% guarentee that I am not going to get forced to stay in Paris or Hong Kong. You can't offer me that protection, and this LOA opens that up. So unless that is changed, I am going to spread the word for that reason alone. I, like some of the other junior pilots, don't want to take the chance of being sent away from my family for three months because the bid was supposed to go senior.
Vote no for those guys in the bottom percentiles. STV=NO for me!
07-12-2007, 02:15 PM
#7
Bourgeoisie
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 787 SO
Posts: 616
Originally Posted by nightfreight
AA,
Then take it out of the LOA and I would vote for it.
This "isn't probably gonna happen" is BS. Why give the company this contract language in the first place? Are these guys for real???
Then take it out of the LOA and I would vote for it.
This "isn't probably gonna happen" is BS. Why give the company this contract language in the first place? Are these guys for real???
07-12-2007, 02:27 PM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 424
I am all for a bid right after the LOA fails. If someone is dumb enough to bid CDG or HKG under the current contract, so be it. Hopefully the bid will close before age 65 passes. Hopefully it will keep some of the over 60 engineers in their position until the next bid comes around. Also, with the -10 excess bid out, alot of these guys will be Boeing engineers....
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