National vs. Western Global Airlines

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12-25-2023, 12:12 PM

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The Dominican

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Position: 747 captain

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Originally Posted by Airbusgod

Your insight is very informative and helpful thank you for your post. Any idea when 747/A330 FO slots will open up again. Thanks a million merry Xmas everyone

Not sure to be honest but if interested in National, the best thing is to show up at a hiring event with up to date CV's and a suit ready to interview on the spot.

12-26-2023, 03:49 PM

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ObadiahDogberry

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Originally Posted by The Dominican

Not sure about the previous comments about Slam Clack are well rested, most of the slam clanckers are infamous for falling sleep on the flightdeck. so go figure. In this job you sleep when the body calls for it, trying to adjust to the new zone will result in never being able to adjust. But if you feel well on arrival and decide to get a meal and a beer like a normal person, there is nothing wrong with that.

Just my experience, that's all. Obviously others may have different observations. But the main point really is that if one is going to do this kind of flying, taking care of yourself needs to be a top priority. Make sure you are well rested and properly fed, and do the other things necessary for you to be healthy.

12-28-2023, 01:33 PM

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Lex11incheSteel

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Would any Captains and FOs share how much they make annually? (National)
Thanks

12-29-2023, 11:25 AM

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tnkrdrvr

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Originally Posted by articwenger

Got a buddy from the military who has offers from both. Just wondering which one would be the better choice.

Thanks in advance!

If your military buddy was also a military trained pilot, these two companies would both be a mistake. Your buddy should start with the legacies, then apply at SWA, JetBlue, the ULCCs, and finally the regionals. If he really wants the AMCI life, Atlas, Kalitta, Omni, and a few others are best of breed and he would be snapped up quickly. If he is merely a vet who pursued a civilian flying career, I still would aim him elsewhere. Western Global’s financial machinations to avoid dissolution in bankruptcy court are impressive (to a lawyer). National may be better off financially, but these are not companies noted for being a great place to advance your career.

edited: acronym error

01-01-2024, 07:48 AM

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Mr Rumbold

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WGA signing bonus (!!)

I see WGA is offering $30k signing bonus now.... interesting.

01-01-2024, 09:41 AM

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JohnBurke

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Will that augment the employee stock options plan dividends?

01-01-2024, 05:01 PM

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Overlander

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Will that augment the employee stock options plan dividends?

The ESOP doesn’t exist since bankruptcy. All those who thought they had millions are out.

01-01-2024, 06:13 PM

#28

tnkrdrvr

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Originally Posted by Overlander

The ESOP doesn’t exist since bankruptcy. All those who thought they had millions are out.

Ouch!!!

filler…..

01-02-2024, 12:56 AM

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ObadiahDogberry

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Originally Posted by Overlander

The ESOP doesn’t exist since bankruptcy. All those who thought they had millions are out.

I was amazed at how many guys thought they'd still be getting an ESOP payment, even after the company said numerous times that the ESOP ceased to exist when the bankruptcy filing was made.