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HerkyBird 07-27-2007 06:48 PM

Maybe I should have said "shee-it hot", instead of what rhymes with "white-hot", and it wouldn't have been censored.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-27-2007 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by HerkyBird (Post 203737)
Maybe I should have said "shee-it hot", instead of what rhymes with "white-hot", and it wouldn't have been censored.

Maybe you should use the "edit" button! ;)

frozenboxhauler 07-27-2007 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by HerkyBird (Post 203737)
Maybe I should have said "shee-it hot", instead of what rhymes with "white-hot", and it wouldn't have been censored.

You said "Minot"? WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOU DIRTY BIRD!:D
fbh

Jetjok 07-27-2007 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by HerkyBird (Post 203734)
This is why we need PROFESSIONAL negotiators, not pilots who think that because they can fly a mighty fine single-engine ILS, it means they're ****e-hot at whatever else they attempt. This is no time for moon-lighting, folks.

I've been wrong in the past (there was that time back in '97, when I thought I was wrong, but I was actually right:D), and I could be wrong here too, but don't we avail ourselves of all of ALPA's resources, including their professional negotiators and contract attorneys, when our negotiating committee negotiates something?? If we don't use them directly, do we not at least pass these documents to them for their comment and recommendations?? I'm hoping the answers to the above is a resounding "YES."

JethroF15 07-27-2007 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 203426)
I agree with Trapav8r.
Just out of curiousity, how many times have you talked to your block rep? E-mailed him? Not just some anonymous post on a web forum. If we don't communicate with our reps, telling them of our issues and desires, they cannot be accused of not representing us.

BTW - After the age 60 deal, I doubt we will ever see another web-poll.

I agree with communicating with your block rep but... are they really listening? During the age 60 debacle I sent a total of 5 emails to my block rep and other union officials with the last to DW. Of the 5 responses, 4 of them stated that if I didn't like the way things were going then I should run for office and change it. I liked DW's the best. It was filled with sarcasm and he even offered to "help me in any way" to run for office. All I wanted was a few answers. From the responses I guess any member who has a question or concern with how things are going should just shut up and run for office. At least that's the impression I get every time I send an email to them.:rolleyes:

42GO 07-27-2007 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by JethroF15 (Post 203750)
I agree with communicating with your block rep but... are they really listening? During the age 60 debacle I sent a total of 5 emails to my block rep and other union officials with the last to DW. Of the 5 responses, 4 of them stated that if I didn't like the way things were going then I should run for office and change it. I liked DW's the best. It was filled with sarcasm and he even offered to "help me in any way" to run for office. All I wanted was a few answers. From the responses I guess any member who has a question or concern with how things are going should just shut up and run for office. At least that's the impression I get every time I send an email to them.:rolleyes:

That is a "stock" answer you get from most of them.....when they don't have an answer for you and disagree with you....
They act like this is all volunteer work....

I'm glad they are doing it but that isn't an acceptable answer.

Lipout1 07-27-2007 08:50 PM

Always the answer. If you dont like it run for office. Talk to your block rep. I guess we can see on this thread who our union officers are. How about this, why dont you that have been elected listen to us. Oh, no, you know best and if you dont like it run for office or shut up

SleepyF18 07-27-2007 10:52 PM

You got a question, call me. Call the office, ext. 2011, I'll get a text message when you leave a message, and I'll call you.

Lipout1 07-27-2007 10:59 PM

Just answer all the questions on all the threads that the MEC has not. No call needed. If you cannot or will not do that, than what is a phone call from me going to accomplish. The questions are out there. answer them to everyone.

SleepyF18 07-27-2007 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Lipout1 (Post 203859)
Just answer all the questions on all the threads that the MEC has not. No call needed. If you cannot or will not do that, than what is a phone call from me going to accomplish. The questions are out there. answer them to everyone.

I answer them in hubturns and in messages and emails. We are working on answering others in messages to the members. I have tried to answer all that has been asked in hubturns and emails. Ask Albie, FDXLAG, hfp, prezbear, afw-md11, micro, etc.

I cannot get into debates on here. I have given you a venue to ask your questions, and I will answer them honestly and truthfully, all that I ask is that you call for more indepth answers.


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