Do you want to guess what percentage of the crew force is present in these "limited" engagements? I doubt if you have addressed over 10% of the crewforce, and I am being generous. NOT because they don't want to but because they are working in another domicile, another country or live someplace other than the HUB. Why don't you give the rest of us a break and quit using the "hubturn meetings" as your only venue. This medium reaches far more people even if they don't respond.

1) Post industry comparisons (Cathay, etc.) to show the justification for the numbers. Here is one to start I just saw that has merit...

I am offering those that are on here a venue to get their questions answered, nothing more, nothing less. I view this is another way for members to get their questions answered via direct contact.

Ok Sleepy, I appreciate your effort. My point is this. There are at least 20-30 well thought out questions about this LOA on this forum. I applaud U for getting on here and trying to address a few. You have my vote. But what you need to do is comb this forum for the many unanswered questions and ask the MEC to address them. Not just me on the telephone. I'm just one of the many and the tidal wave is growing. You better get a surf board. Thanks for being here but you should be asking what do we need to put in the next LOA for you to vote for. In the mean time if you dont agree with the rank and file, then live with your self

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Sleepy,

Not saying you would b/c it is completely your choice, but you could engage in a debate if this discussion were on the ALPA boards instead of APC correct?

I accept your attempt to answer and thank you for trying.....As has been said, there are loads of VERY VALID questions that have been asked on this board....
You can take your choice and answer them as you can....All we want is some answers from the ones who should have some answers.

1) Post industry comparisons (Cathay, etc.) to show the justification for the numbers. Why not start here it is a good question....

2) why was that committee chair fired or replaced....I know from others who have been given the boot that this is an all too common practice with no accountability to the membership and usually no explanation.

Sleepy,

You are doing a stand up job, but disagreements on answers are still happening. Let me quote Jack:

Even though the voting period is open for the FDA LOA, there are still many good questions being asked, and ALPA and the Company have been attempting to answer them as they occur. In a few cases, the questions have made both sides go back and rethink areas that were never discussed or have implications never considered. This is the value of having a month to review the LOA before voting and evidences the difficulty in constructing LOAs.

As far as us peons know the company has not answered questions as they occur but only once and nothing since. You and I disagree on DH pay; we both have opinions. Why is it so hard to get something in writing?

What has been the result of the rethinking? Obviously it will have some impact on the LOA; shouldn't all members find out in writing from our union before the vote closes. Dosen't the Bold sentence indicate that maybe we all rushed into this? I understand ALPA's lawyers are on retainer not hourly workers, what is their advantage to slow leaking answers?

What you think happened isn't what happened.

I have a little more latitude there, not much though, as some may feel like cutting and pasting in other venues outside the ALPA boards. The best venue is face to face, then telephone, then email, then here. That is why we are trying to get the hubturns out there, we had the town hall meeting, etc. The reps and communications are working on trying to answer the questions.

While Cathay's housing allowance may be substantial, I would ask everyone to compare the rest of Cathay's contract and labor relations with management to ours. Cathay pilots have a very different relationship with their management, as the 49ers over there can attest to.

I'm not ignoring this question, I'll try to get back to you on it.