My NC Speaks for Me. I voted YES.
07-28-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by a300fr8dog
Carlos,
"If". Your first word is: IF. And for many, the perception is that this thing just wasn't well thought out, by FDX or our negotiators. But the real rub is in the idea that BC, et al, didn't do their homework.
"If". Your first word is: IF. And for many, the perception is that this thing just wasn't well thought out, by FDX or our negotiators. But the real rub is in the idea that BC, et al, didn't do their homework.
07-28-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Abundis
Actually, I was alluding to the fact that JL has proven to be a straight-shooter. I would take him at his word.
07-28-2007, 10:54 AM
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"Here's why the company cannot renegotiate the LOA terms."
You want to roll the dice against those odds?
We've all got something to lose here.
You want to roll the dice against those odds?
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
When I got nothing to lose I roll them dice every time.
07-28-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Abundis
1.) I don’t want to take money off the table for those pilots who want to take advantage of the opportunity to man these foreign domiciles. 2.) Now is the time to accept the improvements in scope and make it as likely as possible that our business grows with OUR PILOTS - not contract foreign pilots - at the controls; on our next CBA, we can use our experience and leverage to make up for actual deficiencies.
i aplaud your post knowing you be be crucified by some..anyway the only reason i would change my vote is the careful consideration of your 2 points...the money that was put aside for us in the postal debacle (somewhere around $40mill/yr) went into the pockets of management as bonuses and still does....that is a fact!...the money in this case will go the same place and i have been told that...also i have buds wanting to bid these places and want the $2700...and they are going anyway..still thinking
07-28-2007, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
You couldn't have crystallized directly negotiating with the pilot group any better. Would you mind providing a picture that I could put next to this in wiki?
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07-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Abundis
You may not trust JL. OK. How about the NC who negotiated this deal on our behalf? No? How about anyone on the MEC who voted for the LOA? No again? It must be a lonely feeling to have no one (except one Subic pilot) working on your behalf that you can trust.
Do you wake at night when the black helicopters hover over your house? Or have you gotten used to it?
Do you wake at night when the black helicopters hover over your house? Or have you gotten used to it?
07-28-2007, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
You think those were Jack's words? That thing went through a chop chain and was most likely written and/or rewritten for him. As someone mentioned elsewhere on this forum, not enough typos and fat fingering for it to be Jack's words.
07-28-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by av8rmike
You make a post certain to inflame passions and use false assertions to support your position. Then, rather than countering with cogent arguments, you flame away. I look forward to your opinions on this LOA, but only if you base them in fact. You haven't done that yet.
