SEP DP's MEM MD11
#1
The FO's did a decent job of staying off the majority of the Disputes for AUG during the VTO process, but as of the Open Time food fest all the big pairings are taken voluntarily. Not surprisingly by mostly high number employees. The Captains are just as bad.
We will never learn will we ?
MEM MD
Trips 35/27AUG, 577/6SEP, 68/16SEP, 279/18SEP and 282/11SEP
plus all 3 leg AM out and backs 404 and 405 are disputed.
Go check these trips and see if any of your "friends" are helping the team.
We will never learn will we ?
MEM MD
Trips 35/27AUG, 577/6SEP, 68/16SEP, 279/18SEP and 282/11SEP
plus all 3 leg AM out and backs 404 and 405 are disputed.
Go check these trips and see if any of your "friends" are helping the team.
#3
We are losing the battle, we will continue to get crappy pairings and resulting lines when guys can't see past their own needs to "improve" their low seniority ! (general statement on the majority of DP flyers, and of course non members !)
#5
Everything you need to know about MD-11 MEM September Disputed Pairings
#35, #577 - These pairings have multiple issues. In addition to being 11-13 days in length with only one reset, the issue of the rolling body clock is a problem. There are day-night-day-night or day-day-night-night patterns without intervening resets. We want to see resets before swapping the body clock. Finally, cumulative fatigue builds up at arrival to KIX where there is a short layover before a Pacific crossing. We attempted to dispute pairing 22 for the same reasons however, the company found that this sequence has been previously flown.
35/27Aug
577/06Sep
#68 - In addition to the use of the RFO on the IND-STN-CDG long-leg, short-leg sequence, this pairing has other issues. It is a 13-day pairing transiting 30 time zones with only one reset followed by hubturns in Asia. Reliability may be affected as well with the trip starting with a DH to ANC on the last flight of the day with no backups to a relatively short turn.
68/16Sep
#279, #282 - These pairings cross the Atlantic three times and then do a hubturn in Europe before getting a reset. We feel that this style is at risk of cumulative sleep deficit. We recommend resetting in EWR after the second ocean crossing but no later than before operating the hubturn.
279/18Sep
282/11Sep
#404, #405 - These pairings are three-leg a.m. out-and-backs scheduled to return at 0953 LBT, seven minutes before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to potential departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW. Additionally, it is scheduled with only a one-hour turn in DFW.
404/28Aug
404/29Aug
404/30Aug
404/31Aug
405/05Sep
405/06Sep
405/07Sep
405/11Sep
405/12Sep
405/13Sep
405/14Sep
405/18Sep
405/19Sep
405/20Sep
405/21Sep
405/25Sep
405/26Sep
405/27Sep
405/28Sep
#35, #577 - These pairings have multiple issues. In addition to being 11-13 days in length with only one reset, the issue of the rolling body clock is a problem. There are day-night-day-night or day-day-night-night patterns without intervening resets. We want to see resets before swapping the body clock. Finally, cumulative fatigue builds up at arrival to KIX where there is a short layover before a Pacific crossing. We attempted to dispute pairing 22 for the same reasons however, the company found that this sequence has been previously flown.
35/27Aug
577/06Sep
#68 - In addition to the use of the RFO on the IND-STN-CDG long-leg, short-leg sequence, this pairing has other issues. It is a 13-day pairing transiting 30 time zones with only one reset followed by hubturns in Asia. Reliability may be affected as well with the trip starting with a DH to ANC on the last flight of the day with no backups to a relatively short turn.
68/16Sep
#279, #282 - These pairings cross the Atlantic three times and then do a hubturn in Europe before getting a reset. We feel that this style is at risk of cumulative sleep deficit. We recommend resetting in EWR after the second ocean crossing but no later than before operating the hubturn.
279/18Sep
282/11Sep
#404, #405 - These pairings are three-leg a.m. out-and-backs scheduled to return at 0953 LBT, seven minutes before the 1000 LBT contractual limit. We believe this is unrealistic due to potential departure delays in IAH and arrival delays into DFW. Additionally, it is scheduled with only a one-hour turn in DFW.
404/28Aug
404/29Aug
404/30Aug
404/31Aug
405/05Sep
405/06Sep
405/07Sep
405/11Sep
405/12Sep
405/13Sep
405/14Sep
405/18Sep
405/19Sep
405/20Sep
405/21Sep
405/25Sep
405/26Sep
405/27Sep
405/28Sep
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#6
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Boy, it must be nice to be absolutely flawless! To sit back and throw stones at your bretheren with as much ease as taking a breath. Why don't you try to give your compadres at least a little benefit of the doubt before you cast aspersions; perhaps they didn't get the SIG notes, perhaps they were on Mil leave and missed them...there are many viable excuses. Now, picking up a DP knowingly is, of course, inexcusable, but come on, take it easy. Don't forget the parable of the gentleman living in a glass house... But when you never make a mistake I suppose those wise words don't apply.
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#7
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Boy, it must be nice to be absolutely flawless! To sit back and throw stones at your bretheren with as much ease as taking a breath. Why don't you try to give your compadres at least a little benefit of the doubt before you cast aspersions; perhaps they didn't get the SIG notes, perhaps they were on Mil leave and missed them...there are many viable excuses. Now, picking up a DP knowingly is, of course, inexcusable, but come on, take it easy. Don't forget the parable of the gentleman living in a glass house... But when you never make a mistake I suppose those wise words don't apply.
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#8
Boy, it must be nice to be absolutely flawless! To sit back and throw stones at your bretheren with as much ease as taking a breath. Why don't you try to give your compadres at least a little benefit of the doubt before you cast aspersions; perhaps they didn't get the SIG notes, perhaps they were on Mil leave and missed them...there are many viable excuses. Now, picking up a DP knowingly is, of course, inexcusable, but come on, take it easy. Don't forget the parable of the gentleman living in a glass house... But when you never make a mistake I suppose those wise words don't apply.
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-SM
#9
Boy, it must be nice to be absolutely flawless! To sit back and throw stones at your bretheren with as much ease as taking a breath. Why don't you try to give your compadres at least a little benefit of the doubt before you cast aspersions; perhaps they didn't get the SIG notes, perhaps they were on Mil leave and missed them...there are many viable excuses. Now, picking up a DP knowingly is, of course, inexcusable, but come on, take it easy. Don't forget the parable of the gentleman living in a glass house... But when you never make a mistake I suppose those wise words don't apply.
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How's that for a stone?
#10
This sounds suspiciously like YOUR name is on the list?*!

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