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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 AM
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You're on a stretch of 6 scheduled R-days (A-reserve just for argument). You need to re-arrange your R-days to better your schedule and would love to add a 7th to the end of your current string. Obviously this can't be done because you would be creating a 1in7 issue.

You get assigned a long trip that has a 48 hour layover right in the middle of your 6 days.

Does anyone one know if the VIPS is "smart" enough to realize you don't have a 1in7 problem anymore and let you move the R day? Or, is it still just going to "see" the 6 R-days and not let you move a 7th on to the end?

I would have tried myself but I thought of it about an hour after the time it was allowed.

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Old 09-05-2007, 10:26 AM
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I'm not positive but my guess is that it is smart enough. Try it and see or better yet - why don't you call CRS and see what they say?
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I'm not positive but my guess is that it is smart enough. Try it and see or better yet - why don't you call CRS and see what they say?
Yeah, ask Pricilla. Uh.....never mind...
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:10 AM
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I would just call and ask.. Just ask Loni.. I am sure she could straighten you out real quick!
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Okay,
You're on a stretch of 6 scheduled R-days (A-reserve just for argument). You need to re-arrange your R-days to better your schedule and would love to add a 7th to the end of your current string. Obviously this can't be done because you would be creating a 1in7 issue.

You get assigned a long trip that has a 48 hour layover right in the middle of your 6 days.

Does anyone one know if the VIPS is "smart" enough to realize you don't have a 1in7 problem anymore and let you move the R day? Or, is it still just going to "see" the 6 R-days and not let you move a 7th on to the end?

I would have tried myself but I thought of it about an hour after the time it was allowed.

Thanks.
Probably. The reserve levelling screen shows when your next 1 in 7 is due, and it so far seems smart enough to know if you won't need one, based on R-days remaining in a block.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:40 AM
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Depending on the number of days you move, it may not let you because of 1 in 10 but I am pretty sure that is waverable.. Not sure since I live at the Planet and the chance of me waving anything is.. ZERO.. Dunno?
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I would just call and ask.. Just ask Loni.. I am sure she could straighten you out real quick!

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks she won't be winning any Miss Congeneality contests. Wow!!
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Okay,
You're on a stretch of 6 scheduled R-days (A-reserve just for argument). You need to re-arrange your R-days to better your schedule and would love to add a 7th to the end of your current string. Obviously this can't be done because you would be creating a 1in7 issue.

You get assigned a long trip that has a 48 hour layover right in the middle of your 6 days.

Does anyone one know if the VIPS is "smart" enough to realize you don't have a 1in7 problem anymore and let you move the R day? Or, is it still just going to "see" the 6 R-days and not let you move a 7th on to the end?

I would have tried myself but I thought of it about an hour after the time it was allowed.

Thanks.
I had precisely this issue come up this morning. And the answer is... I don't know (yet). I tried the R day swap and it didn't allow me to submit it for the 1 in 7 conflict. Talking to my scheduler, who didn't know why it wouldn't allow it, but speculated that it may be because I haven't yet blocked out on the trip that has the qualifying layover, or haven't yet DONE the layover. I plan to reattempt the swap once I'm on the trip and we'll see where it goes.
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I'm not positive but my guess is that it is smart enough.
I'm absolutely positive that it is not smart enough to figure it out on its own. I've been in this situation several times and called CRS about it a couple of times.

Both schedulers I've spoken to about it said it was an issue with the software (no kidding) and neither would excercise the option of overriding the computer on this.
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First of all, to know Priscilla is to love Priscilla, but it is tough to really get to know her, however, once you do, she'll be your friend for life. Really!

Secondly, Loni very well could win the Miss congeniality contest, However, she is not the brightest bulb in the box, having been moved from job to job for at least the last 17 years that I'm aware of, and probably a number of years before that. I wouldn't ask her the time of day, and when I had to deal with her, the conversation always went like this: me - dial crew scheduling; Loni - "Crew Scheduling, Loni speaking"; me - CLICK!

Since I've not done reserve in a long time, praise Allah, I don't know the answer to your one-in-seven question, but I do know this: if you don't get an answer from your crew scheduler, ask to speak to one of the scheduling supervisors. Many times they know either the answer, or the reason, the computer won't give you a valid answer. OR, do what lots of us have been doing for a long time..... just hang up and call back in about 12 hours when you can ask another scheduler your question. But also remember this, it's usually easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission.
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