UPS ANC schedules
02-24-2008, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ILStoMinimums
Really amazing! What is the most junior Captain longevity in ANC?
This is about to change this year, however, as junior captains south of ANC get bumped with the looming displacements, and some of them decide to keep their cushy left seat and come up here. A lot of the UPS captains hanging out in ANC right now won't be captains much longer, unfortunately, based on what's coming out of the rumor mill.
02-24-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Freighter Captain
At the moment the junior captain in ANC is on Year 8 pay. The MD-11 and -400 junior captains are only a few months apart longevity-wise. Right now.
This is about to change this year, however, as junior captains south of ANC get bumped with the looming displacements, and some of them decide to keep their cushy left seat and come up here. A lot of the UPS captains hanging out in ANC right now won't be captains much longer, unfortunately, based on what's coming out of the rumor mill.
This is about to change this year, however, as junior captains south of ANC get bumped with the looming displacements, and some of them decide to keep their cushy left seat and come up here. A lot of the UPS captains hanging out in ANC right now won't be captains much longer, unfortunately, based on what's coming out of the rumor mill.
02-24-2008, 01:16 PM
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I'm a NH. Currently, I'm on reserve growing a beard. My first bid period I got a line--if you get a NH line, it's going to be rather non-commutable: 3-4 day trips followed by 3-4 days off, for the entire period. Second bid period was the same. My third, I'm on reserve--I think I could have been on reserve sooner, as folks who are in their first bid period right now are on reserve. So, reserve is not so senior any more.
There's about a snowballs chance in ONT that you're going to get a 12 day trip being junior. If lucky, you can trade some of your 3 day trips to make them more back-to-back to almost become commutable. I live here now, so I'm not so much into the trip-trading thing anymore.
There's about a snowballs chance in ONT that you're going to get a 12 day trip being junior. If lucky, you can trade some of your 3 day trips to make them more back-to-back to almost become commutable. I live here now, so I'm not so much into the trip-trading thing anymore.
Originally Posted by TipTip35
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Can someone give a sample of what the new hire schedules for UPS ANC based pilots look like? Previously I saw some speculation but I was wondering if there was anyone (NH) on this board actually flying up there or familiar with the schedules.
I heard that reserve goes senior up there. Is that correct?
Also if you get a line fairly soon what does it look like? I previously heard one long trip (10-12 days) and then a second shorter trip (5-6 days). Does that sound right to anyone? Anyone commuting up there and if so how is working out??
Thanks
Can someone give a sample of what the new hire schedules for UPS ANC based pilots look like? Previously I saw some speculation but I was wondering if there was anyone (NH) on this board actually flying up there or familiar with the schedules.
I heard that reserve goes senior up there. Is that correct?
Also if you get a line fairly soon what does it look like? I previously heard one long trip (10-12 days) and then a second shorter trip (5-6 days). Does that sound right to anyone? Anyone commuting up there and if so how is working out??
Thanks
02-24-2008, 01:27 PM
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My W2 says i made $36,000 for ten months of employment with UPS as a NH.
Not bad for having to commute 4,500 miles to work from Tampa.
Sorry, my medication has worn off, but the liquor store is only a few blocks away.
Not bad for having to commute 4,500 miles to work from Tampa.
Sorry, my medication has worn off, but the liquor store is only a few blocks away.
02-24-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
My W2 says i made $36,000 for ten months of employment with UPS as a NH.
Not bad for having to commute 4,500 miles to work from Tampa.
Sorry, my medication has worn off, but the liquor store is only a few blocks away.
Not bad for having to commute 4,500 miles to work from Tampa.
Sorry, my medication has worn off, but the liquor store is only a few blocks away.
Or do you think you will be able to hold the lower 48 in the next 2 years ?
I don't ...
02-24-2008, 04:33 PM
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I talked to one really senior guy that bid reserve and flew on his off days JA and JA2. I think his figure was $43,000 for the month.
This paycheck posting sure makes a guy earning $971 per pay period feel like a team player (the guy on the bench with his underwear pulled over his head). I am sure in any group a couple of guys are at the top of the bell curve. Unfortunately in every group others are at the bottom and will stay there for many years based on recent law changes.
Fish
This paycheck posting sure makes a guy earning $971 per pay period feel like a team player (the guy on the bench with his underwear pulled over his head). I am sure in any group a couple of guys are at the top of the bell curve. Unfortunately in every group others are at the bottom and will stay there for many years based on recent law changes.
Fish
02-24-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fishalaska
I talked to one really senior guy that bid reserve and flew on his off days JA and JA2. I think his figure was $43,000 for the month.
This paycheck posting sure makes a guy earning $971 per pay period feel like a team player (the guy on the bench with his underwear pulled over his head). I am sure in any group a couple of guys are at the top of the bell curve. Unfortunately in every group others are at the bottom and will stay there for many years based on recent law changes.
Fish
This paycheck posting sure makes a guy earning $971 per pay period feel like a team player (the guy on the bench with his underwear pulled over his head). I am sure in any group a couple of guys are at the top of the bell curve. Unfortunately in every group others are at the bottom and will stay there for many years based on recent law changes.
Fish
Reality it is not sustainable though. Short term 'opportunity' because UPS screwed the pooch on manning airplanes. Past practice: 1. they hire more supervisors to fill in the holes and 2. reduce the number of folks sitting reserve (they will when they get ANC full strength and force enough folks to move there because they intentionally build non commutable schedules) and 3. keep using this behavior against the rest of us and publish this persons income as typical of the greedy union pilots when it suits UPS needs. Oh well. IRS likes it. Not many of the rest of us.
02-24-2008, 07:41 PM
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Can anybody tell me the name of the bars in ANC that you guys go to. Humpys and F Street? I've got a sister in law and some friends making a trip up there in a month or so and I was telling her there were a couple of bars where the pilots hang out at. Don't want to send her to the wrong place, you know like the ABC!
Thanks.
FJ
Thanks.
FJ
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