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Old 10-06-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post

Are there any 727 captains who'd jump on the 757 for the odd STV (voluntary) and perhaps "slightly" better seniority in another seat, or just the "heck of it--I want to do something different" factor?
As a matter of fact if a wide body slot doesn't fall my way yeah that's me...
I am really tired of touring the central time zone in the 72.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:00 PM
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let me see.......You don't suppose that any one who would consider Bidding one of these FDA's as an FO would first bid it as a CAPT?

I don't want to put words in your mouth but
"ALL the CAPT slots will be most likely be filled and some of the FO slots possibly will go unfilled?"
Redeye you're probably right. I came up with these numbers while taking an hour long muni bus ride from Kowloon to Stanley market in HKG going thru Repulse Bay (wasn't that one of the perspective housing areas mentioned here during the LOA discussion a few months back?).

I just think when folks really peel back the onion (commute {even the internal HKG traffic looks daunting}, costs, schools, schedules) and do their homework on CDG and HKG they are gonna sit tight in the USA.

However, these aren't big #'s the co. has to fill. I ran into an SFS Airbus FO during the turn 3 nights ago and she is gonna bid CDG 757 FO. She's single, no attachments to the USA and wants to live in Europe. Just what the co. is looking for (actually she is just what most MD11 Capts I fly with are looking for, yuk, yuk)...so all the Capt slots get filled...very junior and half the FO slots go unfilled.

We'll know in November. Warning...some jet lag may be involved in this post.

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Old 10-06-2007, 08:30 PM
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Anybody else think a lot of the HK lines look commutable?

Other than someone on the negotiating committee wanting to take a lot of asian vacations; I can't figure out why SIBA would cost much more with these lines. Unless of course we don't get travel pay.

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Old 10-06-2007, 09:59 PM
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Way to make any domicile commutable is to have 2-3 guys who will eat a long month or short month with you. Trade, bump, or do whatever it takes to get the work done in 2 weeks vice 4. It could work for the right pair/trio of guys and gals. Even one guy who regularly will trade with you can make life much simpler.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:40 PM
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Way to make any domicile commutable is to have 2-3 guys who will eat a long month or short month with you. Trade, bump, or do whatever it takes to get the work done in 2 weeks vice 4. It could work for the right pair/trio of guys and gals. Even one guy who regularly will trade with you can make life much simpler.
The problem with this is, per the LOA, you are REQUIRED to live within 100 miles of your domicile. Commuting will be made impossible, I think, by the way they'll build the lines. Keep in mind, also, that they can (and WILL) program the scheduling computer to disallow trip trades that will allow commuting.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:52 PM
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you are REQUIRED to live within 100 miles of your domicile.
Danny, this isn't Russia. Is this Russia? This isn't Russia, is it?
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
Way to make any domicile commutable is to have 2-3 guys who will eat a long month or short month with you. Trade, bump, or do whatever it takes to get the work done in 2 weeks vice 4. It could work for the right pair/trio of guys and gals. Even one guy who regularly will trade with you can make life much simpler.

I agree, just pointing out that one of the loalies used by the sales team of JL and DW is that the FDAs would be uncommutable. Some of us scoffed heavily in their direction; but were told 3 on 3 off shut up and color.

I still think a senior guy could bid permanent STV and make out. Of course one of the many unanswered question is how will STV dudes bid. I still don't see any implementation language on STVs. But I am sure the company has a plan!
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HerkyBird View Post
The problem with this is, per the LOA, you are REQUIRED to live within 100 miles of your domicile. Commuting will be made impossible, I think, by the way they'll build the lines. Keep in mind, also, that they can (and WILL) program the scheduling computer to disallow trip trades that will allow commuting.

In order to get the money (bonus and housing allowance), you have to live within 100 miles of the domicile. If you don't want the money you can live elsewhere and commute. You can also get a crash pad within 100 miles of the domicile, get the money and still commute.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso View Post
The 1:30 is the credit not the cab ride time, look at the times.
Sure hope that ride is pimped out for comfort/napping. Also hope the number and quality of sleep rooms in CAN is above average.

Just bought a house, so I ain't going.

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FlybyKnite View Post
Sure hope that ride is pimped out for comfort/napping. Also hope the number and quality of sleep rooms in CAN is above average.

Just bought a house, so I ain't going.

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FlybyKnite,

If you have ever ridden in any sort of the provided transportation by the company in China (PVG, or HKG to Shenzen) you would know that the ride will not be pimped out for comfort or napping. But the worst part of any of the rides in mainland China is their driving technique. You see, I have yet to see a driver anywhere in China (HKG excluded) who has figured out that you can actually hold the gas pedal in one position and actually maintain a consistent speed, which means the car will move along in a somewhat smooth fashion. All of the drivers instead prefer the "push on the gas for three seconds and then release for three seconds" technique. This "technique" is repeated for the entire ride. As one can imagine, this lurching style of driving results in the passengers getting thrown forward and then back every 3 to 6 seconds, which prevents any sort of napping or dozing during the duration of the ride. I am sure that will be very enjoyable for those unfortunate enough to be doing the HKG-CAN commute on a regular basis.
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