GreaseA6

Go to VIPS-Standing Bid-Training Letter. Just came out this PM.

Albief15

757 for MEM slots about a year out. Probably going to be another bid before then (I think.....)

Gunter

If the 757 dates stay on schedule you can call me a monkey's uncle.

CloudSailor

Hey guys,
Does the training letter specify dates for the Airbus and the 757?
So the 757 training dates are about 12 months from now?
Thanks, just trying to guess/speculate when they would hire for HKG/CDG.

ictflyer23

They aren't going to hire for HKG/CDG -- sorry -- STV will keep that from happening

CloudSailor

ictflyer,
It seems that I've read that the company posted, before the bid closing, that they were not going to STV for long periods of time, and that HKG/CDG vacancies would be filled by new-hires. It was posted on here a few times.
Have you heard something different?

Bohica

Cloud: here is the training letter (sanitized) for the 75:

Start Date Seat Bid Old seat Finish Date

3MAR08 Initial M57F 0703 M27S 02MAY08

Trans. M57C 0703 M27C 02MAY08
0703 M11C 02MAY08

M57F 0703 M27F 02MAY08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

17MAR08 Initial C57C 0703 M30F 16MAY08

C57F 0703 M27F 16MAY08

Trans. C57C 0703 A11C 16MAY08

C57F 0703 M30C 16MAY08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

31MAR08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 30MAY08

C57F 0703 M11F 30MAY08
0703 M30F 30MAY08

Trans. C57C 0703 M30C 30MAY08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

14APR08 Initial C57C 0703 M10F 13JUN08
Trans. 0703 M27C 13JUN08

C57F 0703 S30F 13JUN08
0703 M30F 13JUN08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

28APR08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 27JUN08
Trans. 0703 M30C 27JUN08

C57F 0703 M27S 27JUN08
0703 M30F 27JUN08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

12MAY08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 11JUL08
0703 M11F 11JUL08

Trans. C57F 0703 M27S 11JUL08
0703 M27F 11JUL08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

26MAY08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 25JUL08
Trans. 0703 M27C 25JUL08

C57F 0703 M27F 25JUL08
0703 A11F 25JUL08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

09JUN08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 08AUG08

C57F 0703 M27S 08AUG08

Trans. C57C 0703 A11C 08AUG08

C57F 0707 A11F 08AUG08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

23JUN08 Initial C57C 0703 M10F 22AUG08
0703 M30F 22AUG08
0703 L11F 22AUG08

C57F 0703 M27S 22AUG08
0703 M27S 22AUG08
0703 M27S 22AUG08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

07JUL08 Initial C57C 0703 M30F 05SEP08
0703 S30F 05SEP08

C57F 0703 M27S 05SEP08
0703 M27S 05SEP08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

21JUL08 Initial C57C 0703 M30F 19SEP08
0703 L11F 19SEP08

C57F 0703 M27S 19SEP08
0703 M27S 19SEP08
0703 M27S 19SEP08

Trans. C57C 0703 M27C 19SEP08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

04AUG08 Initial C57C 0703 M11F 03OCT08
0703 A11F 03OCT08

C57F 0703 S30F 03OCT08
Trans. 0703 S30F 03OCT08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

18AUG08 Initial C57C 0703 S30F 17OCT08
0703 M30F 17OCT08
0703 M30F 17OCT08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

08SEP08 Initial C57C 0703 M10F 07NOV08
0703 M11F 07NOV08
Trans. 0703 M27S 07NOV08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

22SEP08 Initial C57C FLX M30F 21NOV08
0703 S30F 21NOV08
0703 A11F 21NOV08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

06OCT08 Initial C57C 0703 S30F 05DEC08
0703 M11F 05DEC08
Trans. 0703 M27C 05DEC08
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

20OCT08 Initial C57C 0703 M30F 19DEC08
0703 M11F 19DEC08

M57F 0703 M10S 19DEC08

Trans. M57C 0703 M30F 19DEC08

CloudSailor

Thanks Bohica, appreciate the post.
Since crews are already trained in the Airbus, they won't post a training letter, is that correct?
Will they post a 'transfer date' letter?

fdx727pilot

Quick synopsis:

According to the training letter, there are 2 MEM crews going through 75 school starting 3 Mar and ending on 2 May. 2 weeks later and every 2 weeks for quite a while (through 4 Aug,) 2 CDG crews start training. After that, it becomes 3 CDG Capts per class through Oct 08, when the rest of the MEM crews start going through training.

The first HKG A300 crews start training at the end of Jan. The last FO who actually has to go through training (as opposed to a base transfer) starts in Mar. HKG Capts continue training through the year. The Subic Bay A300 FOs who elected HKG transfer in Dec, when Subic officially closes and HKG opens.

Using this info, you can speculate on if and when they hire for FO slots for the FDAs.

Bohica

No, there is a training letter for the transfers and the training. Not all of the Bus guys are transferring. I'm working on the Bus letter right now.