FDX--Furlough not possible? Think again...
01-02-2008 | 03:17 AM
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01-02-2008 | 05:55 AM
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So now there's a problem with (senior/old) guys taking their earned vacations and using their earned sick time. What are you asking of them, to not use their vacation, and to fly when they're sick, as well as giving all their earned Disability Sick Account hours back to the company? Don't you realize that most of the time when a senior guy calls in sick, or takes a vacation, someone with less seniority will get a (usually) good deal. Or are you just willing to forsake those good deals, in exchange for accusing the senior guys of taking their earned time away from the job? And oh, by the way, after your first year here, you too start the next year with 72 hours in your sick bank.
No one is asking anyone to give up what they have earned. They are just asking who would be more productive in the bean counters eyes.
01-02-2008 | 06:21 AM
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I hope so too. Reading the BLG section, it seems that it's an all or nothing thing on the 48/60 which is probably why PC wants relief from ALPA. I don't see any way that they can say reduce the BLG to 48/60 on the -10, 757 and the Boeing while leaving say the Bus and Mad Diggity at normal min BLG levels. What will King DW do???
01-02-2008 | 07:07 AM
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- A pilot shall have the following minimum bid period guarantee, except as provided in Section 4.A.2. through A.5.:
- 68 CH in a 4-week bid period.
- 85 CH in a 5-week bid period.
- Change to Minimum Bid Period Guarantee
- A pilot's minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced by the net number of CH by which the pilot's actual credit hour compensation for a bid period is less than his BLG/RLG as a result of activities being dropped from his awarded line with reduced pay or without pay.
Examples of reduced pay include: trips dropped and trip traded down to a lesser value.
Examples of trips dropped without pay include: pilot requested drops, phase-in conflict, transition to inactive pay status, emergency drop and disciplinary suspension. - The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough.
- A pilot's minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced by the net number of CH by which the pilot's actual credit hour compensation for a bid period is less than his BLG/RLG as a result of activities being dropped from his awarded line with reduced pay or without pay.
Unless the company decides to blow off the CBA or we negotiate a side letter. There is no way the company can reduce the BLG 30%.
Regarding SECTION 4, 2 B. The previous CBA had us at 72 hours minimum bid period guarantee before a pilot furlough, and now it sits at 48/60.
WHY would this have been negotiated down in this manner and WHY did our negotiators give this plum back to the Company ??? I suspect this and other areas or our CBA that have been causing some eye brow raising, are the price paid for an AGENCY SHOP agreement with the Company.
01-02-2008 | 07:20 AM
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I just checked the T.A. language, that was issued for August 26, 2006.
Regarding SECTION 4, 2 B. The previous CBA had us at 72 hours minimum bid period guarantee before a pilot furlough, and now it sits at 48/60.
WHY would this have been negotiated down in this manner and WHY did our negotiators give this plum back to the Company ??? I suspect this and other areas or our CBA that have been causing some eye brow raising, are the price paid for an AGENCY SHOP agreement with the Company.
Regarding SECTION 4, 2 B. The previous CBA had us at 72 hours minimum bid period guarantee before a pilot furlough, and now it sits at 48/60.
WHY would this have been negotiated down in this manner and WHY did our negotiators give this plum back to the Company ??? I suspect this and other areas or our CBA that have been causing some eye brow raising, are the price paid for an AGENCY SHOP agreement with the Company.
Read a little closer. That 72 hour reduction was from 102 for a six week bid month, which we got rid of in this contract.
01-02-2008 | 08:04 AM
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I just checked the T.A. language, that was issued for August 26, 2006.
Regarding SECTION 4, 2 B. The previous CBA had us at 72 hours minimum bid period guarantee before a pilot furlough, and now it sits at 48/60.
WHY would this have been negotiated down in this manner and WHY did our negotiators give this plum back to the Company ??? I suspect this and other areas or our CBA that have been causing some eye brow raising, are the price paid for an AGENCY SHOP agreement with the Company.
Regarding SECTION 4, 2 B. The previous CBA had us at 72 hours minimum bid period guarantee before a pilot furlough, and now it sits at 48/60.
WHY would this have been negotiated down in this manner and WHY did our negotiators give this plum back to the Company ??? I suspect this and other areas or our CBA that have been causing some eye brow raising, are the price paid for an AGENCY SHOP agreement with the Company.
In order for the company to furlough, it must prove that we are so over-manned that they can fly the current system form building lines with only 48 CHs. If this low minimum was not in place, they could furlough 30 -40 pilots anytime, and just turn the optimizer up, and make up the difference with draft.
The company cannot fly the current system form with a 48/60 blg, therefore they cannot furlough.
01-02-2008 | 08:20 AM
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In my opinion, the 48/60 minimum is there to protect us. Without it, the company could furlough every year after peak, then bring the guys back during the next peak. This a little exaggerated, but think about it.
In order for the company to furlough, it must prove that we are so over-manned that they can fly the current system form building lines with only 48 CHs. If this low minimum was not in place, they could furlough 30 -40 pilots anytime, and just turn the optimizer up, and make up the difference with draft.
The company cannot fly the current system form with a 48/60 blg, therefore they cannot furlough.
In order for the company to furlough, it must prove that we are so over-manned that they can fly the current system form building lines with only 48 CHs. If this low minimum was not in place, they could furlough 30 -40 pilots anytime, and just turn the optimizer up, and make up the difference with draft.
The company cannot fly the current system form with a 48/60 blg, therefore they cannot furlough.
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