Our Best Furlough Bargaining Chip
12-30-2007, 09:24 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by MAWK90
ALBIE, I draw the line there pal! What's wrong with wanking to porn in your hotel room!????
fbh
12-31-2007, 04:37 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Precontact
UPS threatened it in 2003...some guys took early retirements and it was cancelled.
12-31-2007, 07:13 AM
#24
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CBA addresses this in section 23........
C. Incentive Plan
The Company may, at its option, elect to avoid or mitigate a furlough by offering pilots or a specific group of pilots (using age or seniority, unless the Association consents to an alternate selection criteria) voluntary early retirement and/or severance package. If made to a specific group of pilots, any offer shall be made on a uniform and non-discriminatory basis. The Company shall notify, meet and consult with the Association prior to making any offer pursuant to this paragraph
They can even target the over 60 crownd as a "specific group"
C. Incentive Plan
The Company may, at its option, elect to avoid or mitigate a furlough by offering pilots or a specific group of pilots (using age or seniority, unless the Association consents to an alternate selection criteria) voluntary early retirement and/or severance package. If made to a specific group of pilots, any offer shall be made on a uniform and non-discriminatory basis. The Company shall notify, meet and consult with the Association prior to making any offer pursuant to this paragraph
They can even target the over 60 crownd as a "specific group"
12-31-2007, 07:24 AM
#25
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Yet more proof we are in big trouble...
From our own website--AOD today:
Record volumes
On Monday the 17th, the Company experienced the busiest night in its history! We processed more than 11.4 million packages through our worldwide networks, beating the existing record of 9.8 million packages.
Our Chairman and President, Fred Smith, tells us, “As an engine of the global economy, FedEx relies on the incredible dedication of our global workforce of more than 280,000 team members to deliver the holidays for our customers. The continued growth of FedEx is a testament to the commitment of our people, to the unprecedented access we give our customers and to the reliability of our unmatched global networks."
An overmanning bubble? Maybe. A crisis? I don't think so. C'mon ALPA--hang tough on this one. Let's keep our wits and work together.
Record volumes
On Monday the 17th, the Company experienced the busiest night in its history! We processed more than 11.4 million packages through our worldwide networks, beating the existing record of 9.8 million packages.
Our Chairman and President, Fred Smith, tells us, “As an engine of the global economy, FedEx relies on the incredible dedication of our global workforce of more than 280,000 team members to deliver the holidays for our customers. The continued growth of FedEx is a testament to the commitment of our people, to the unprecedented access we give our customers and to the reliability of our unmatched global networks."
An overmanning bubble? Maybe. A crisis? I don't think so. C'mon ALPA--hang tough on this one. Let's keep our wits and work together.
12-31-2007, 07:31 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by MAWK90
ALBIE, I draw the line there pal! What's wrong with wanking to porn in your hotel room!????
Hey please just don't hit the remote. I might get assigned that room after you check out. Great now I have to request that I not get a room from one of the Fed-ex guys.
12-31-2007, 07:49 AM
#27
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The sky is not falling
PC is not going to furlough because he is a nice guy or his daughter is 22 from the bottom, he is not going to furlough because of your CBA.......
b. The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough.
If we were to reduce to 48/60 CH, we would need to hire pilots. This is posturing to fill the FDA's under a subpar LOA. The sky is not falling here people. Spead the word to the uniformed sheep out there flying the line and maybe we can give our union the fortitude to stand tall on this one.
Taking a paycut to help fund the return of the over 60 crowd is another story.
b. The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough.
If we were to reduce to 48/60 CH, we would need to hire pilots. This is posturing to fill the FDA's under a subpar LOA. The sky is not falling here people. Spead the word to the uniformed sheep out there flying the line and maybe we can give our union the fortitude to stand tall on this one.
Taking a paycut to help fund the return of the over 60 crowd is another story.
Last edited by XUSair; 12-31-2007 at 08:01 AM.
12-31-2007, 09:24 AM
#28
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I hear a lot of guys say that if we reduce the BLG to 48/60, that we would need to hire pilots. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but it seems to me that lowering the BLG just redistributes the flying over a larger group of pilots. You have to assume that the reason the BLG is going down is because there are too many pilots to do the existing flying. Lowering the BLG allows more lines to be built with less flying on each line, so everyone works and we don't have to furlough. If I'm off on this, someone please feel free to set me straight. Thanks.
12-31-2007, 09:28 AM
#29
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When they (we) say they would have to hire pilots it is metaphoric since you would not expect furlough and hiring at the same time. The point is the company would need a lot more bodies if the current BLG was limited to 48 a month.
I guess the point is our minimum Bid Line Guarantee (For Vagabond) is 68 hours. The company would like something less (in some fleets). The Union's ultimate Hard Ball tactic would be to say fine furlough someone. At which time the Min BLG would go to 48 (IMO) and the company would have trouble meeting its schedule.
And no I do not think a furlough is likely as they have provided us written notice of their intention not to furlough.
I guess the point is our minimum Bid Line Guarantee (For Vagabond) is 68 hours. The company would like something less (in some fleets). The Union's ultimate Hard Ball tactic would be to say fine furlough someone. At which time the Min BLG would go to 48 (IMO) and the company would have trouble meeting its schedule.
And no I do not think a furlough is likely as they have provided us written notice of their intention not to furlough.
Last edited by FDXLAG; 12-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
12-31-2007, 09:30 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
I hear a lot of guys say that if we reduce the BLG to 48/60, that we would need to hire pilots. I'm not a rocket surgeon, but it seems to me that lowering the BLG just redistributes the flying over a larger group of pilots. You have to assume that the reason the BLG is going down is because there are too many pilots to do the existing flying. Lowering the BLG allows more lines to be built with less flying on each line, so everyone works and we don't have to furlough. If I'm off on this, someone please feel free to set me straight. Thanks.
It would redistribute the flying to a group of pilots larger than we have now.
We still have to fly our system form, ie we must still fly to all of the cities that we currently service at the rate that we currently service them. I don't think Fedex will go tell Omaha, Flint, Spokane and Tuscon, sorry you cannot have Fedex service anymore, we have too many pilots.....
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