If y'all will indulge a short digression...

is Gemini still flying some DHL contracts?

 

Yes, the MD11 has long term contracts with DHL. We also do some adhoc for them.....

 

Well, I'm sure you're just the 'pride of your company', FreighterCapt.

"...Stapled to the bottom...", eh? That is a real professional, equitable statement. You think all Gemini pilots deserve to get screwed, and that all your pilots deserve their seniority, but they don't?

Real fair play, dude. I'm sure you're great to fly with.

Are you sure you're not really an American Airlines pilot?

 

It is both. If UPS were to buy us I think the Gemini guys would be gone. We only have 4 MD11s. I don't think UPS wants to run our DC-10-30s.
If FedEx were to buy us then there is something in the ALPA bylaws about integration. The argument was made that the Jr guys at FedEx would lose about 200 places with a straight DOH intergration. The Sr guys at Gemini would not be able to hold widebody Capt. That is what these guys are talking about.

It is like talking about winning the lottery, you can talk about what you are going to do with all that money. Until it actually happens it is all hot air. If there are any Gemini guys thinking of FedEx buying us so you can go work there, the only way you are going to wear a FedEx uniform is to apply, interview and get hired.

 

Don't count on ALPA for a thing, fogrunner. They'll sell you out in a heartbeat if it means any political, financial or net gain. TRUST me.

If Gemini is the flavor of the month, you need to get your pilots to set up a legal fund NOW, and have merger counsel ready ASAP if a buyout comes along. Don't trust your union to provide one, get your own.

 

Gents/Ladies

I am new to this site. Here goes my 1st post!

Quit worrying about things you can't control!
If and when FDX or UPS, or AStar buys Gemini........then you can get your panties in a wad, although you still have little control of the outcome.

Don't lose sight that both FDX and UPS are in heated contract talks. MGT loves to slip rumors of mergers, acquisitions and BID mega bids. This is all designed to keep your eyes off the Ball.

If a merger happens, it happens. Why waste time speculating until it does? In any event I suspect Gemini crews have a merger successorship clause in their contract.( Good thing for you folks you voted in a Union). They won't be stapled to the bottom of a list. The buying carrier Pilot group will fight for their pilots best interests and the Gemini pilots will fight for their best interests. As in most mergers seniority intergration will be decided by a nuetral arbitrator. Been there and done that! Mergers always screw somebody...........just the way it is.

Fly safe everyone..........Red eye

 

Hadn't heard that one yet...but it makes as much sense as anything. More likely than the FedEx/UPS scenarios IMO. Pretty good rumor fodder for a 1st post!

 

ALPA has never provided merger counsel. It has always been up to the individual pilot groups to hire their own legal counsel. The one exception I recall is that ALPA did provide council for the Tiger pilots because they felt it would be a good investment toward the goal of representing all FedEx pilots.

If there ever is a merger you will find that ALPA at FedEx will do the honorable thing and operate in accordance with the ALPA merger policy. That being said, there is probably no truth to the rumor of FedEx buying Gemani.

 

Hey if one didn't spread/start/talk about/ rumors, what point would there be to post?? Its the same as chit chat in the cockpit, helps pass time and give you an excuse to not do some chore around the house!

 

THAT'S what I'm doing here. I've been trying to figue it out for weeks. I'm also avoiding crew scheduling. They've called with draft trips twice today.