FDX - More over 60 info from CQ
02-07-2008 | 06:50 PM
#22
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Lag,
I would have to wonder if I could walk into the squadron regularly and also be keeping all my security issues updated while living in HKG or Guangshou. It certainly is an "interesting" time.
You know this kind of chatter will invite the "hey...that's abusing mil leave" calls. At the same time...having a guy willing to hang it out for a part time job and nickels on the dollar to serve his country serves both the nation and the taxpayer pretty well. For the last 5 years, the US got a mission ready deployable F15 pilot for less than 50k a year....more like 30k most years....with no expenses of retirement pensions, medical benefits, etc. So the guys that do serve, while they may not help the bottom line of a particular company certainly do help the nation. In the Air Force or Guard, however, it is hard to always give enought--especially if you are associated with an active duty unit. My experience the last few years trying to do both was that you basically end up ****ing off two organizations at times--but you have to accept that is part of the job. Sure was fun while it lasted...
Funny thing is I made the choice to quit wearing two hats about eight months ago. I had the chance to do some non-flying stuff, but thougth I'd finally concentrate on my airline gig for a while. My back said F-15 flying was probably out, and the latest groundings of the F15 fleet vindicated that decision and have meant fewer sorties and chances for the guys who stay in...so it was the right thing to do. However, when I clicked "yes" on my online retirement app, it sure felt wierd. When I got my flight records in the mail two weeks ago, even though I had flown my last F15 flight almost a year earlier, it was still an very emotional moment. Only those guys who have walked away can understand that finality.
Point to all this? Anyone who is hired into an FDA and does some Guard or Reserve work will probably take some heat from the company at times. You'll also probably have more a$$ pain than you can imagine at your unit when you are updating security issues and trying to schedule your work around commuting across the oceans. You'll make a lot of folks irritated...
But as for me...I salute you. I did it....for six years...and had it easier than most but some days it was still DAMN hard. I'll buy you beer and say "thanks for your service". Thanks for taking the heat from your unit. Thanks for rolling with the punches from the company. It won't be easy. But you can wake up, look in the mirror, and say "I'm still on the home team" when the world goes to crap...and for me that was still the absolute best part of staying in the ANG these last six years. I won't miss the early a.m. briefs, the gradesheets, the ORIs, or the painful ancillary training squares, or having to get admin help to log on to a computer every time I can back to the squadron because the passwords nazis were out in force. But I'll miss knowing that I was an officer and warrior, and that now I am just another retired schmuck cluttering up the commissary.
I would have to wonder if I could walk into the squadron regularly and also be keeping all my security issues updated while living in HKG or Guangshou. It certainly is an "interesting" time.
You know this kind of chatter will invite the "hey...that's abusing mil leave" calls. At the same time...having a guy willing to hang it out for a part time job and nickels on the dollar to serve his country serves both the nation and the taxpayer pretty well. For the last 5 years, the US got a mission ready deployable F15 pilot for less than 50k a year....more like 30k most years....with no expenses of retirement pensions, medical benefits, etc. So the guys that do serve, while they may not help the bottom line of a particular company certainly do help the nation. In the Air Force or Guard, however, it is hard to always give enought--especially if you are associated with an active duty unit. My experience the last few years trying to do both was that you basically end up ****ing off two organizations at times--but you have to accept that is part of the job. Sure was fun while it lasted...
Funny thing is I made the choice to quit wearing two hats about eight months ago. I had the chance to do some non-flying stuff, but thougth I'd finally concentrate on my airline gig for a while. My back said F-15 flying was probably out, and the latest groundings of the F15 fleet vindicated that decision and have meant fewer sorties and chances for the guys who stay in...so it was the right thing to do. However, when I clicked "yes" on my online retirement app, it sure felt wierd. When I got my flight records in the mail two weeks ago, even though I had flown my last F15 flight almost a year earlier, it was still an very emotional moment. Only those guys who have walked away can understand that finality.
Point to all this? Anyone who is hired into an FDA and does some Guard or Reserve work will probably take some heat from the company at times. You'll also probably have more a$$ pain than you can imagine at your unit when you are updating security issues and trying to schedule your work around commuting across the oceans. You'll make a lot of folks irritated...
But as for me...I salute you. I did it....for six years...and had it easier than most but some days it was still DAMN hard. I'll buy you beer and say "thanks for your service". Thanks for taking the heat from your unit. Thanks for rolling with the punches from the company. It won't be easy. But you can wake up, look in the mirror, and say "I'm still on the home team" when the world goes to crap...and for me that was still the absolute best part of staying in the ANG these last six years. I won't miss the early a.m. briefs, the gradesheets, the ORIs, or the painful ancillary training squares, or having to get admin help to log on to a computer every time I can back to the squadron because the passwords nazis were out in force. But I'll miss knowing that I was an officer and warrior, and that now I am just another retired schmuck cluttering up the commissary.
02-07-2008 | 07:00 PM
#23
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From: MD11 FO, ANC
...As to how to get to HKG from the US, it's not really that hard from the Bay area. Skyguide shows that there are 4 direct flights a day on Cathay (0005 or 1205 takeoff), United (1157 takeoff), or Singapore (0005 takeoff). and, we have a flight that goes to NRT (0245 show time) that could be your backup for the Cathay or SIN 0005 flights, and can connect to HKG pretty easily.
So, it's doable, but as you said, you'd be hanging it out there as a probie if you didn't make a check in.
So, it's doable, but as you said, you'd be hanging it out there as a probie if you didn't make a check in.
I just looked in the $5000 FDX-ALPA calendar, and there's no mention of jumpseating on Cathay Pacific internationally.
I've always stuck to FX jumpseats in Asia - are we allowed/welcome on others?
If so, where's the info on "how to"?
02-07-2008 | 07:49 PM
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From: 767 FO
Lag,
I would have to wonder if I could walk into the squadron regularly and also be keeping all my security issues updated while living in HKG or Guangshou. It certainly is an "interesting" time.
You know this kind of chatter will invite the "hey...that's abusing mil leave" calls. At the same time...having a guy willing to hang it out for a part time job and nickels on the dollar to serve his country serves both the nation and the taxpayer pretty well. For the last 5 years, the US got a mission ready deployable F15 pilot for less than 50k a year....more like 30k most years....with no expenses of retirement pensions, medical benefits, etc. So the guys that do serve, while they may not help the bottom line of a particular company certainly do help the nation. In the Air Force or Guard, however, it is hard to always give enought--especially if you are associated with an active duty unit. My experience the last few years trying to do both was that you basically end up ****ing off two organizations at times--but you have to accept that is part of the job. Sure was fun while it lasted...
Funny thing is I made the choice to quit wearing two hats about eight months ago. I had the chance to do some non-flying stuff, but thougth I'd finally concentrate on my airline gig for a while. My back said F-15 flying was probably out, and the latest groundings of the F15 fleet vindicated that decision and have meant fewer sorties and chances for the guys who stay in...so it was the right thing to do. However, when I clicked "yes" on my online retirement app, it sure felt wierd. When I got my flight records in the mail two weeks ago, even though I had flown my last F15 flight almost a year earlier, it was still an very emotional moment. Only those guys who have walked away can understand that finality.
Point to all this? Anyone who is hired into an FDA and does some Guard or Reserve work will probably take some heat from the company at times. You'll also probably have more a$$ pain than you can imagine at your unit when you are updating security issues and trying to schedule your work around commuting across the oceans. You'll make a lot of folks irritated...
But as for me...I salute you. I did it....for six years...and had it easier than most but some days it was still DAMN hard. I'll buy you beer and say "thanks for your service". Thanks for taking the heat from your unit. Thanks for rolling with the punches from the company. It won't be easy. But you can wake up, look in the mirror, and say "I'm still on the home team" when the world goes to crap...and for me that was still the absolute best part of staying in the ANG these last six years. I won't miss the early a.m. briefs, the gradesheets, the ORIs, or the painful ancillary training squares, or having to get admin help to log on to a computer every time I can back to the squadron because the passwords nazis were out in force. But I'll miss knowing that I was an officer and warrior, and that now I am just another retired schmuck cluttering up the commissary.
I would have to wonder if I could walk into the squadron regularly and also be keeping all my security issues updated while living in HKG or Guangshou. It certainly is an "interesting" time.
You know this kind of chatter will invite the "hey...that's abusing mil leave" calls. At the same time...having a guy willing to hang it out for a part time job and nickels on the dollar to serve his country serves both the nation and the taxpayer pretty well. For the last 5 years, the US got a mission ready deployable F15 pilot for less than 50k a year....more like 30k most years....with no expenses of retirement pensions, medical benefits, etc. So the guys that do serve, while they may not help the bottom line of a particular company certainly do help the nation. In the Air Force or Guard, however, it is hard to always give enought--especially if you are associated with an active duty unit. My experience the last few years trying to do both was that you basically end up ****ing off two organizations at times--but you have to accept that is part of the job. Sure was fun while it lasted...
Funny thing is I made the choice to quit wearing two hats about eight months ago. I had the chance to do some non-flying stuff, but thougth I'd finally concentrate on my airline gig for a while. My back said F-15 flying was probably out, and the latest groundings of the F15 fleet vindicated that decision and have meant fewer sorties and chances for the guys who stay in...so it was the right thing to do. However, when I clicked "yes" on my online retirement app, it sure felt wierd. When I got my flight records in the mail two weeks ago, even though I had flown my last F15 flight almost a year earlier, it was still an very emotional moment. Only those guys who have walked away can understand that finality.
Point to all this? Anyone who is hired into an FDA and does some Guard or Reserve work will probably take some heat from the company at times. You'll also probably have more a$$ pain than you can imagine at your unit when you are updating security issues and trying to schedule your work around commuting across the oceans. You'll make a lot of folks irritated...
But as for me...I salute you. I did it....for six years...and had it easier than most but some days it was still DAMN hard. I'll buy you beer and say "thanks for your service". Thanks for taking the heat from your unit. Thanks for rolling with the punches from the company. It won't be easy. But you can wake up, look in the mirror, and say "I'm still on the home team" when the world goes to crap...and for me that was still the absolute best part of staying in the ANG these last six years. I won't miss the early a.m. briefs, the gradesheets, the ORIs, or the painful ancillary training squares, or having to get admin help to log on to a computer every time I can back to the squadron because the passwords nazis were out in force. But I'll miss knowing that I was an officer and warrior, and that now I am just another retired schmuck cluttering up the commissary.
All very good points and you know much more about the subject than I. I'll bet there might be one or two jobs that would work. I hope they wouldn't be claiming Hong Kong as their official residence. As far as people talking; as long as it is legal and moral, wgas. I certainly don't think it is abuse. Anybody still serving has my respect; a lot tougher now then in my day.
02-07-2008 | 09:04 PM
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Just curious - are you talking about jumpseating on those commercial flights?
I just looked in the $5000 FDX-ALPA calendar, and there's no mention of jumpseating on Cathay Pacific internationally.
I've always stuck to FX jumpseats in Asia - are we allowed/welcome on others?
If so, where's the info on "how to"?
I just looked in the $5000 FDX-ALPA calendar, and there's no mention of jumpseating on Cathay Pacific internationally.
I've always stuck to FX jumpseats in Asia - are we allowed/welcome on others?
If so, where's the info on "how to"?
You guys are brave to consider that commute (I thought PHX-DEN got old
).
02-08-2008 | 12:25 AM
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From: 777 Capt
Yeah, Cathay would require a deviation bank - my bad. Not sure about Singapore (maybe a Subic guy could enlighten us), but a United seat in the back should be available. Remember, I said it was doable - didn't say it would be easy.
And Albie has a good point about Reserve and Guard security clearances. Living in China or Hong Kong (which is now technically part of China) could prove to be very problematic for those guys with Secret and above clearances.
And Albie has a good point about Reserve and Guard security clearances. Living in China or Hong Kong (which is now technically part of China) could prove to be very problematic for those guys with Secret and above clearances.
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