No furloughs at UPS as a result of displacement?
03-14-2008, 12:43 PM
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No furloughs at UPS as a result of displacement?
Didn't really get a warm-fuzzy from the IPNN update stating that there would be no furloughs as a result of the displacement bid. Basically just said that no crewmembers had received a 90 day furlough notice. Was that hadn't received a furlough notice yet??? Would have rather seen a statement that said the displaced crews would be needed in other fleets... Or mayber I'm just reading too far into this.
03-14-2008, 02:31 PM
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furloughs
Guys...
Ups would have to be idiots (okay, bigger idiots than they already are!) to furlough. Not only would there be little to no open time or ja pickup but a lot of people would start using more of their sick time in response; I know I wouldn't feel quite as well coming to work in a furlough situation. I would think that they will carry extra bodies in the right seat of whatever fleet they feel will be growing in 08/09 and not put them in the fe positions for just a year.
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Ups would have to be idiots (okay, bigger idiots than they already are!) to furlough. Not only would there be little to no open time or ja pickup but a lot of people would start using more of their sick time in response; I know I wouldn't feel quite as well coming to work in a furlough situation. I would think that they will carry extra bodies in the right seat of whatever fleet they feel will be growing in 08/09 and not put them in the fe positions for just a year.
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03-15-2008, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggs
Also, todays IPA member who could be furloughed is tomorrows ****ed off ups pilot manager with some pay back. They seem to forget that.
03-15-2008, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
Didn't really get a warm-fuzzy from the IPNN update stating that there would be no furloughs as a result of the displacement bid. Basically just said that no crewmembers had received a 90 day furlough notice. Was that hadn't received a furlough notice yet??? Would have rather seen a statement that said the displaced crews would be needed in other fleets... Or mayber I'm just reading too far into this.
The 90 day furlough letter can come at any time. We are always just 90 days from furloughing. If such threats were made I am sure the majority of line pilots would step up like in the past.
However, I like you, would have preferred a more convincing statement from the IPNN. But we didn't get it. I'm sure for those near the bottom this is all unnerving but it sure is a example of how fast things can change.
03-15-2008, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Airbum
RB, I truly think you are reading to much into this. I don't see how the IPA leadership can say what will happen to displaced folks unless there are contractual issues at play.
The 90 day furlough letter can come at any time. We are always just 90 days from furloughing. If such threats were made I am sure the majority of line pilots would step up like in the past.
However, I like you, would have preferred a more convincing statement from the IPNN. But we didn't get it. I'm sure for those near the bottom this is all unnerving but it sure is a example of how fast things can change.
The 90 day furlough letter can come at any time. We are always just 90 days from furloughing. If such threats were made I am sure the majority of line pilots would step up like in the past.
However, I like you, would have preferred a more convincing statement from the IPNN. But we didn't get it. I'm sure for those near the bottom this is all unnerving but it sure is a example of how fast things can change.
03-15-2008, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
... to instill yet more resentment about the geezers ....
We don't even know if it is. Just that clip from the IPNN that made things clear as mud. That was my point earlier ...
Like Airbum said, a furlough is only 90 days away ... for now it is mostly posturing from both sides.
03-15-2008, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
Stilly Sprague has a great post on the B & G regarding the issue, and any nervous junior guy/gal should read it.
Ok, I just read his post and he's making me feel guilty for calling the geezers geezers.
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