Must be the same ND Chucklehead walking around the AOC with a pair of epaulets that he took a pair of scissors to and NO JOKE, cut it down from 4 stripes to 3!! :eek:

Can't wait to see Practice Bid #2!!!!

TSDeeez Nutzzz

How many folks do you think will take the furlough recall to the FDA? If it comes to that, how deep will the cut go before they stop the bleeding?

If you keep flicking the switch, someone in HKG will go crazy from the lights going on and off;)

It is going to get interesting, that's all I can say. I feel lucky to have a job even if I am sliding backward due to the prunes....I would rather be a plumber that be unemployed!:cool:

Bid what you want, after the FDA get's filled, I would expect a "clean up bid."(with about ten practice bids)

HJ

Was that a response to my post? No switch flipping here. I am just noting that the company doing a (-1) excess in every seat in the latest bid shows that the company knows how to stay three steps ahead of the union to do what they want. They, in effect, did a bump and flush. They know how to do end-arounds on our contract. So how do they get around the no-excessing-to-a-FDA part of the CBA? Furlough and immediate recall to HKG!!!! Trim 150 from the roster. Force the next 40-50 to HKG. Eliminate passover pay. All without having to sweeten the FDA pot!! Guys will have to chose going broke paying for private school and the rent in HKG, or their job. That is why we need a REAL expat package. You listening FE?

I heard they figured out the transport in HKG, the train. Cab was 4 hours. Train should be about 2, doesn't run all the time though, "The World On Time". Could transport via air but that is too much at $160 a flight.

I think the way to force guys into HKG is to threaten what DaRaiders mentioned. And then are only TOOL, the union, will say our hands are tied. They are going by what the contract says. Gonna be hard to pull of 48 credit hours.

My understanding is that the train is not an option, as public transportation of any kind is in violation of the CBA and LOA. The LOA would have to be modified to allow the train.

You are right Subic. I did have a jumpseater today, Captain. Had it from the ACP for HKG, train is going to pushed on the guys there. Besides it will go senior. Oh yeah and it will be an addition to the current POS LOA. Any addition is good right? For what it is worth he said the train was the idea or whatever dartboard they are throwing at now.

took the train from GZ to HKG .... not too bad except for the immigration lines on both ends and the mass of people jostling to board first.

Did you happen to hear if, by doing the train thing, the pairings would be lengthened by a day to allow DH by train, crew rest, then operate?

Who was in charge of due diligence?
 

If we are going to change the LOA again lets get the invol STV eligibility window changed back from 1 every 6 bid periods (LOA) to 1 in 14 (contract). This will fix one of the most blantant stick it to the junior guy provisions (at least in the LOA).

See item G.2. of the proposed ammendments to the LOA.

There's a link to it in the Special Message Line of 06-04-08 which can be found under the "stay informed" header on the right side of the FDX ALPA homepage.