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pinseeker 06-21-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 408858)
OK, we all know there is an economic slow down. But what does that have to do with us? I will ask again, are there any cities we serviced in 2006 that we are not servicing today? Is the amount of freight we ship today statistically <,>, or = to what we shipped in 2006. Knowing the answer I must ask why are our BLGs already down 10% on their way to 25%.

The reason this is important is we can't fool ourselves. The last contract and the optimizer are responsible for our perceived overmanning. Unless we admit that we will make the same mistakes on the next contract. Don't let the union or company get away with blaming the economy.

Gas up almost 400% since 2006, volume down 70k packages per day since 2007, and transitioning from 3 man to 2 man aircraft. As the economy weakens, fewer companies will pay an express premium unless it is absolutely necessary. We will get through this, but the company and union aren't making this up.

groggy 06-21-2008 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 408767)
Yep,

I flew with a "senior" capt last week....and the positon put forth was that it was unfair that the line she had only paid 68CH which is the same as a reserve guy. The obvious solution to her was to just furlough the bottom 3-400 guys so we could go back to ops normal. She asked if she was wrong to think that way,
and I said YES

That really does not seem believable. I can't fathom how some people sleep at night.

FDXLAG 06-21-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 408881)
Gas up almost 400% since 2006, volume down 70k packages per day since 2007, and transitioning from 3 man to 2 man aircraft. As the economy weakens, fewer companies will pay an express premium unless it is absolutely necessary. We will get through this, but the company and union aren't making this up.

I didn't say they were making it up, just not including all the facts. How many bodies does the change to simulator scheduling save the company? I'll bet it is just as many as the change to two man aircraft. You don't think the optimizer has saved them any bodies?

MD11Fr8Dog 06-21-2008 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 408881)
Gas up almost 400% since 2006,

Reference please! Price of gas today is ~$4/gal so 2006 would be..... $.80/gal??

Freightbird 06-21-2008 12:56 PM

Jet Fuel price
 
www.dixwx.com
This is only looking back 12 months!


Jet Fuel Cost per Gal
May '07 $2.24
May '08 $3.94
Jun 13 $4.10

per 100 pounds
May '07 $33.50
May '08 $58.77
June 13th $61.17
Source: U.S. Energy Information Admin

DLax85 06-21-2008 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 408858)
...Knowing the answer I must ask why are our BLGs already down 10% on their way to 25%...

Admittedly, jumping in here a bit late....but, who is/was the source for this reduction to 58 BLG rumor?

...have we heard this from 2 independent sources?

...anyone "in the know" been able to verify this at any level?

Personally, I'm taking a deep breath and waiting to see the training letter after this Excess Bid closes out.

Exactly who are they going to train? ...and at what rate per month?

Will they really move that many people to/from ANC? (...IMHO, there's real marginal cost there, which can be avoided)

If a bunch of guys bid HKG Capt for WB passover pay, will the company call their bluff and post a HKG excess bid to shake those guys out?

I'm not sure the company's crystal ball is all that clear....and that the bean counters accurately predicted how everyone would bid, and the associated training/move costs, in this Mother-of-All Excess bids.

...am still trying to only concern myself with what I can actually control.

A'o Aloha! :)

FDXLAG 06-21-2008 02:45 PM

Correct, I should have said already down ten percent and supposedly going down 25 percent. I think it is a bad rumor too.

BTW On the fake training letter I was scheduled for a 1 Jan 2009 class. I went to activities and looked at scheduled ITU and they currently have me down for a Sep 2008 class. I forgot that was in vips.

Albief15 06-21-2008 02:46 PM

73.9% of the stuff here is chaff. 24.1 is usually incomplete or embellished.

I doubt this rumor falls into the other 2%.

Busboy 06-21-2008 02:51 PM

Reference please! Where did you get those figures?:rolleyes:

FDXLAG 06-21-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 409010)
73.9% of the stuff here is chaff. 24.1 is usually incomplete or embellished.

I doubt this rumor falls into the other 2%.


That means APC is twice as accurate as ALPA!:D


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