I was hoping one of you contract experts could explain the legalities of the below situation. I don't have a dog in the fight, I just happened to notice this as the trips popped up in open time last night and then disappeared. 727 line 130 started out as pure AM out and backs to BFM (trip #20) and then last night all 4 trips in the first week were revised to MEM-BFM-ORD-rest-ORD-IND-MEM night hub turns. That totally changes the nature of the line and the trips all go outside the footprint of the original trips.

So what happens to the guys holding the line? I assume they can decline the revised trips and go into substitution, right? If they do fly them, do they get extra pay (disruption)? Is there additional pay for going outside the footprint?

Thanks. Two years on the property and still trying to figure out how it all works.

 

Layover disruption for each and also extra landings. If you don't care what you fly(kinda like me as a commuter), the stuff adds up pretty quickly, but if you live in Memphis, and are looking forward to going home to your own bed, I believe you can drop it, and that would be your only course of action. The contract compensates, that is about it...

I may be off base, but that is how I read it.

HJ

 

25.S of the contract outlines the disruptions,
caveat being pay for an Extra Duty Period trumps some of the disruptions.
Looking at the trip, I think the company will only pay the 3+30 ED and should certainly pay the 1+30 for "changing" the layover

So, bottom line, if the guys sucked up the hub turns after the trip was revised pay would have been almost worth the hub turns

But, I'd still try for the landing disruption pay (2 hours for the extra 2 landings on the trip--.5 for the first, 1.5 for each additional landing)

 

This exact situation happened to me a couple of years ago with an SHV out and back line. Since the trips were revised outside of the 4 hr return window, they were automatically dropped and reassigned as RAT trips (125% pay but no disruption/extra duty period pay). I called up scheduling and told them I didnt want to do any of the trips so I went into SUB. They can only give you SUB trips that fall with +/- 4 hours of your original trip footprint, so that limits them pretty much to other O&Bs. They called us one day out of the 12 we were on SUB. Turned out to be a pretty sweet deal.

 

Yep, working 1 day for 12 days of pay is always better than working 12 days for 15 days of pay (OTP). Good job!

Similar, but smaller deal for me in Jan. 4 day trip cancelled and I'm in sub. Called me at first opportunity for a 1 day trip on the last day! Working 1 day for 4 days of pay was better than taking OTP to work 4 days for 5 days of pay.

 

Man, it's always something. Can't believe I didn't even think of looking in the Substitution section of the contract versus the Trip Revision section.