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09-03-2008 | 05:01 PM
#11
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Latest bid just came out. We still need to hire 10 DC10 FO's and 17 MD11 FO's.
As OKBK said I wouldn't be at all surprised if they increase the number of crews on the DC10 for the latest addition to the fleet, everyone on the fleet is working a lot at the moment.
As OKBK said I wouldn't be at all surprised if they increase the number of crews on the DC10 for the latest addition to the fleet, everyone on the fleet is working a lot at the moment.
09-04-2008 | 04:21 AM
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From: Just passin' thru
How many days a month are you gone? How many hours do you fly?
09-04-2008 | 08:44 AM
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From: C-172 FO
For the 10 guys it's really your choice. If you want to be at home, you will be out 12 - 15 days a month. If you want to earn, you can be out 18 - 24 days a month.
This isn't a hard fast rule as sometimes the guys who just want to earn a steady paycheck get shafted and are stuck out as much as 18 days; and the same for the guys who want OT, they may only work a 12 day month sometimes.
Guarantee is 12 days off a month, 6 hard where they can't touch you; 6 soft where you can be "non volunteered" - this is a rarity. One can always volunteer your off days. Pay is an extra 3.6 hours on top of whatever you have earned.
This isn't a hard fast rule as sometimes the guys who just want to earn a steady paycheck get shafted and are stuck out as much as 18 days; and the same for the guys who want OT, they may only work a 12 day month sometimes.
Guarantee is 12 days off a month, 6 hard where they can't touch you; 6 soft where you can be "non volunteered" - this is a rarity. One can always volunteer your off days. Pay is an extra 3.6 hours on top of whatever you have earned.
09-04-2008 | 05:00 PM
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From: Just passin' thru
For the 10 guys it's really your choice. If you want to be at home, you will be out 12 - 15 days a month. If you want to earn, you can be out 18 - 24 days a month.
This isn't a hard fast rule as sometimes the guys who just want to earn a steady paycheck get shafted and are stuck out as much as 18 days; and the same for the guys who want OT, they may only work a 12 day month sometimes.
Guarantee is 12 days off a month, 6 hard where they can't touch you; 6 soft where you can be "non volunteered" - this is a rarity. One can always volunteer your off days. Pay is an extra 3.6 hours on top of whatever you have earned.
This isn't a hard fast rule as sometimes the guys who just want to earn a steady paycheck get shafted and are stuck out as much as 18 days; and the same for the guys who want OT, they may only work a 12 day month sometimes.
Guarantee is 12 days off a month, 6 hard where they can't touch you; 6 soft where you can be "non volunteered" - this is a rarity. One can always volunteer your off days. Pay is an extra 3.6 hours on top of whatever you have earned.
Since you're understaffed, do you have many reserves, or does most everyone have a regular line?
09-05-2008 | 05:06 AM
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Here's the way it works. We have home reserve with a short call out and a 76 hour guarentee and open time lines with a long, 16 hour call out and a 65 hour guarentee. At least 50% of the pilot force is on a open time line since alot of flying isn't finalized by the time bid lines are constructed. OTL is the junior assignment. The only question is what you consider reserve?
09-05-2008 | 05:46 AM
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Here's the way it works. We have home reserve with a short call out and a 76 hour guarentee and open time lines with a long, 16 hour call out and a 65 hour guarentee. At least 50% of the pilot force is on a open time line since alot of flying isn't finalized by the time bid lines are constructed. OTL is the junior assignment. The only question is what you consider reserve?
09-05-2008 | 06:14 AM
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From: C-172 FO
Thanks for all the good information. Is there a big difference between the DC10 and MD11 flying in terms of routes these days? I realize they can fly anywhere on demand at any time. That said, do the DC10s tend to do more Europe and Middle East while the MD11s do those places plus Asia, South America, etc.?
09-06-2008 | 03:28 PM
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From: Just passin' thru
The 10 does almost exclusively military flying. So you can bet on Europe and SE Asia. But we also pick up a lot of ADHOC work from the military that takes us out into the Pacific. I spent most of my summer flying HNL - Guam - Darwin - Japan and ANC. The MD flies everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE. The MD flies contracts for Air France and Lufthansa (Just to name a few) as well as Military flights.
09-06-2008 | 06:10 PM
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From: C-172 FO
None of that matters though, manning levels are so low that we turn away flights when we have acft available; just no crews to fly them.
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