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05-12-2009, 10:02 AM

#51

RogAir

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I have always done my ML on days off and not notified the company because it seemed pointless. I recently heard that if you are injured while doing Mil Duty, and you didn't notify the company beforehand of your duty, even on days off, you are in a different "status" when it comes to sick leave usage, return to work, etc than if you had notified them. Anyone else know about this?

05-12-2009, 09:41 PM

#52

groggy

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Originally Posted by Lawn-Dart

I avoid taking extended mil leave like the plague. It affects medical, jumpseating, and vacation accrual, perhaps even other things. I'd much rather drop trips, since it's leave without pay anyway. And we all know dropping trips nowadays is a piece of cake since they get scooped up within minutes.

Raw deal for serving your country.

don't forget the new REARP policy. Finally the DOD is recognizing (with financial appreciation) the active duty augmentation of the Guard and Reserve....

Perhaps finding 90-day tours could be worth your while.

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05-12-2009, 10:16 PM

#53

av8rmike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kwri10s

Most guys do not mil drop for every mil duty. For one, if I Mil drop then I am forcing the company to take that trip off my hands. If I just straight drop then I am asking for permission not to do the trip and I am being approved. While a small difference, I try to save the "mil drop" option for when I absolutely have no other option. Yes it costs me B fund contributions, but it is also not taking advantage of the system. I am getting off a trip just like everyone else. My trip straight dropped into open time can be picked up by someone and flown, while my mil drop I forced might be given to a reserve pilot. If I can't straight drop the trip, I try to change my mil if possible or find another work around. If everyone taking mil always just jammed the schedulers forcing them off trips, then at some point the company may be inclined to slow down the volume of my military buddies that they hire in the future. Or they might just make it more and more unpleasant when we do have to take mil (more then they do now). There are lots of ways the mil guys could take advantage of the system, we try to self police, and this is one of the ways we try to limit the impact on the company, and our fellow pilots.

What you are really doing is undercutting the benefits we are entitled to under Federal Law. If you feel like giving up the B Fund contributions someone fought to put into law, that's your choice. Also, you really think it makes a bit of difference if you use MLA or regular drop to shed a trip? Come on. What about sick, or vacation? Finally, with the tremendous number of current/former military pilots on the line and in management here, do you truly think dropping trips for MLA would make them not hire military guys? For me, if it's a military reason for not being able to take a trip, I notify the company as required by USERRA and go do my duty while fully covered by Federal law.

06-09-2009, 09:12 PM

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Update on jumpseating while not in CASS

Tried jumpseating this last week. Here is my experience...

I am not in CASS due MLOA.

Tried Alaska Airlines: denied (even called gate agent supervisor/lead), but they stated if not in JACS (sp), Alaska's version of CASS, absolutely no way to jumpseat, not even in the cabin. Captain not allowed to overide like in years past.

Tried US Airways: same story, gate agents had no way of comprehending how anyone could jumpseat if not in CASS. No way, not even in the cabin.

Third time was the charm with SWA. No problem, checked all my documents - agents helpful - Got a seat in the back. Thanks much for the lift.

06-10-2009, 11:11 AM

#55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by groggy

Tried jumpseating this last week. Here is my experience...

I am not in CASS due MLOA.

Tried Alaska Airlines: denied (even called gate agent supervisor/lead), but they stated if not in JACS (sp), Alaska's version of CASS, absolutely no way to jumpseat, not even in the cabin. Captain not allowed to overide like in years past.

Tried US Airways: same story, gate agents had no way of comprehending how anyone could jumpseat if not in CASS. No way, not even in the cabin.

Third time was the charm with SWA. No problem, checked all my documents - agents helpful - Got a seat in the back. Thanks much for the lift.

After 12 years worth of commuting on mainly SWA but also other airlines I agree, there simply is no match for the friendly and the 'common sense' approach SWA has for jumpseaters...

Mucho Danke!