MD11HOG

Every penny he gets? Just like Lorenzo and every business owner who pays his people as little as he can? Those coal miners don't need a living wage or health care, the owners deserve every penny they get. OK, maybe the Lorenzo comparison was too much. But Fred would replace all 144,000 Fed Ex employees with Chinese prison labor if he could. Including you and CUB pilot.

cub pilot

Quote: "But Fred would replace all 144,000 Fed Ex employees with Chinese prison labor if he could"

”Hog” absolutely positively deserves the stupid quote of the day award.
Someone can be an intelligent, caring individual who is a great pilot and then post this? His other analogy of a coal miner strikes a chord. Every day these hard working guys go down into the dark and dusty mines, some with the intelligence level of “Hog”. “Hog”, I hope that this direction you are giving this forum on FedEx Corporation was only a temporary lapse of judgment and not the true “Hog”.

Thanks, Fedex 999 for the positive comment. Your right, the picture should be viewed in this tone.

Tony, on second thought, keep Fred’s’ picture to show him as a tough negotiator when dealing with Airbus.
What do you think of my post on the A380F vs. the 747-8F?
cub

MD11HOG

Cub, you missed the point. Coal mine OWNERS don't "deserve every penny they get" from labor and Fred doesn't either. Please reread my poorly written post. I would never have a bad word to say about a miner, just the OWNERS. You see, I don't run down unions. I know they are the only hope a working man has for a voice in their job conditions. And if you respect miners, you should do some historical research and find out what conditions they worked in before they had a union.

TonyC

On second thought, you don't want those sour grapes? OK, Mr. Fox. You don't get your way, so you change your mind. I see your way.


If you want me to stroke you about your post RE: the A380 you're going to have to tell me where to deliver the DVD. Until then, I'm through with you.








- The truth only hurts if it should -

NightBusDriver

Baloney ... 99% of the pilots respect Mr. Smith and 100% are glad to be a part of the great company he has founded (and he deserves all his riches from pulling it all off!). This is about business, nothing personal -- our Negotiating Committee is empowered and entrusted to hold management's feet to the fire (your wording). When our cornerstone issues are properly addressed, then we can conclude our "good faith bargaining."
Everyone? If so, pass the word on to Fred to let out some rope so a deal can be reached!

cub pilot

Please deliver to Wilson Air Center FBO at MEM airport located across from the UPS facility entrance on Winchester. Leave at front desk and mark for me. No rush, Thanks --cub

FDXFLYR

Cub Pilot,

I completely disagree with your position and disagree with your perception of the situation. Your writing suggests you perceive our negotiations as a very emotional and personal issue; it is not. It's just business.

The only way we can achieve the contract we deserve is to create economic conditions that make settling a contract less costly than not. It's just that simple.

One of management's (any management team, not just FedEx) tools to keep employee groups at a disadvantage is to publish misleading communications and spread rumors through the rank and file. Management takes advantage of those who agree with, and identify themselves with management's perspective. Frankly, they use people who for whatever reason are unwilling to study for themselves, both sides of the situation and who forget or ignore history.

I believe anyone who accurately reviews the history between management and our pilots (indeed, all FedEx employees) cannot help but see how management is following an established playbook on how to manipulate employee groups for the purpose of keeping employee costs as low as humanly possible. It is all the same stuff I learned as a young manager (not in aviation) in my previous life.

I really believe your perspective is held by a very small minority. I think you are selling yourself short by not really looking at the history of this management's method of negotiating with its employees because your writing paints the picture for me at least, as being a tool that management is manipulating.

FR8Hauler

[QUOTE=FDXFLYR]Cub Pilot,

I completely disagree with your position and disagree with your perception of the situation. Your writing suggests you perceive our negotiations as a very emotional and personal issue; it is not. It's just business.

Well said. Fred Smith does not hate us, but don't think he would not replace us for the lowest bidder if he could. It's just business

Fedex999999

"... Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes."

Yeah, it's just business. It's not personal, it's just business.

cub pilot

Tony,

Are you a person that when you make a promise, I can trust you?

Differences aside, you failed to deliver!

cub