Any Info on IFL Group
#71
If you have an FAA friend contact them about this airline, that's how I found out about them during my research. I found out they totaled one of their 3 B727's a few months ago they are so bad. They only had about 16 crewmembers but over 20 FAA "letters of investigation" were sent just in 2014. You read right, that's more "letters of investigation" than crewmembers! The FAA is constantly all over them. You will have FAA in your ground school, simulator rides, your IOE, line checks and trips. They have over a 90% turnover rate the largest in aviation. It's so bad that once "unsuspecting pilots who didn't do their homework" realize what this place is they actually quit within months and start payments of their huge training contracts. They have hired an militant Eastern Airlines hitman for all training which results in over an 60% failure rate which is also the highest in the US by far. They say his handy work is legendary at Planet Airlines. Call anyone who did time at planet and you will find out about this guy. Because of this they are constantly hiring. They will run classes of 8 to 10 just to get one or two, but they won't tell you this. Call around because this information was easy to find. This is a "Trifecta Airline" because in the end you will end up on the street, out of work, repaying your training contract, and for the rest of your career having to check one of those "Kiss of Death" boxes on every airline application in your future. They like to lure young kids out of college who end up getting absolutely blindsided. Poor things, So anyway, Don't walk away from this one RUN! It's a career ender
#72
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
If you have an FAA friend contact them about this airline, that's how I found out about them during my research. I found out they totaled one of their 3 B727's a few months ago they are so bad. They only had about 16 crewmembers but over 20 FAA "letters of investigation" were sent just in 2014. You read right, that's more "letters of investigation" than crewmembers! The FAA is constantly all over them. You will have FAA in your ground school, simulator rides, your IOE, line checks and trips. They have over a 90% turnover rate the largest in aviation. It's so bad that once "unsuspecting pilots who didn't do their homework" realize what this place is they actually quit within months and start payments of their huge training contracts. They have hired an militant Eastern Airlines hitman for all training which results in over an 60% failure rate which is also the highest in the US by far. They say his handy work is legendary at Planet Airlines. Call anyone who did time at planet and you will find out about this guy. Because of this they are constantly hiring. They will run classes of 8 to 10 just to get one or two, but they won't tell you this. Call around because this information was easy to find. This is a "Trifecta Airline" because in the end you will end up on the street, out of work, repaying your training contract, and for the rest of your career having to check one of those "Kiss of Death" boxes on every airline application in your future. They like to lure young kids out of college who end up getting absolutely blindsided. Poor things, So anyway, Don't walk away from this one RUN! It's a career ender
#74
If you have an FAA friend contact them about this airline, that's how I found out about them during my research. I found out they totaled one of their 3 B727's a few months ago they are so bad. They only had about 16 crewmembers but over 20 FAA "letters of investigation" were sent just in 2014. You read right, that's more "letters of investigation" than crewmembers! The FAA is constantly all over them. You will have FAA in your ground school, simulator rides, your IOE, line checks and trips. They have over a 90% turnover rate the largest in aviation. It's so bad that once "unsuspecting pilots who didn't do their homework" realize what this place is they actually quit within months and start payments of their huge training contracts. They have hired an militant Eastern Airlines hitman for all training which results in over an 60% failure rate which is also the highest in the US by far. They say his handy work is legendary at Planet Airlines. Call anyone who did time at planet and you will find out about this guy. Because of this they are constantly hiring. They will run classes of 8 to 10 just to get one or two, but they won't tell you this. Call around because this information was easy to find. This is a "Trifecta Airline" because in the end you will end up on the street, out of work, repaying your training contract, and for the rest of your career having to check one of those "Kiss of Death" boxes on every airline application in your future. They like to lure young kids out of college who end up getting absolutely blindsided. Poor things, So anyway, Don't walk away from this one RUN! It's a career ender
#75
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
When I was there in the 90's it was a cool outfit, DC-3s, piston and turbine Convairs, good people, it paid well, it was by the book , and a great launching pad for legacy carriers and Purple freighters, I can't speak for the present, but my memories of the IFL I knew are fond ones.
#76
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,100
Likes: 0
From: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
#77
Unfortunately aviation has turned into a highly regulatory and litigation liable industry. If a pilot at an airline was ever unfortunately involved in an accident involving death of passengers the representative attorneys of the remaining families and their estates will use anything no matter how small in that pilots flying history to literally, and with no end in sight sue the daylights out of the airline. Every airline knows this extreme liability. Now there are over ten databases and counting that the airlines can track the pilots with. They are programmed to find even "investigation history" which by the way never expires in "outside databases". If a pilot in the future happens to trigger one of these database inquiries (that runs every 90 days) at the majors, then he is tagged for the rest of his career. So even if he thinks he's smart and doesn't select any of the "Death" boxes on the online airline applications it doesn't matter, because they will have him tagged on their "Questionable History" databases. "Conviction" or "no conviction" makes no deference to airline liability. Don't let the anyone tell you this goes away. An investigation may only be traceable for a year or so through government record request, that's why the outside databases for the airlines pull every 90 days. This way airlines can make it a permanent record for their hiring liability assessments. In the old days before computers were so powerful, you could dodge a few miss hit bullets from investigations but bottom line, those days are over, it is best that pilots keep a completely spotless record throughout their career. At the majors there are literally 80 pilots completing for each seat, being tagged by one of these databases makes it an easy "culling of the herd" process. Do your best to keep your record clean if you can.
#78
New Hire
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Captain DC9
#80
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 64
Likes: 2
I was on the Boeing at IFL for almost four years. It was and still is an oustanding place to work. Sometimes I wonder why I even left. The training department there is top notch. Training is not done to a typical night freight level. They strive for excellence and expect nothing less. How many places do you think would be able to take glass cockpit trained 20-somethings and turn them into FEs, FOs, and Capts on a 727? This list is not long, I can assure you of that. It was some of the most rewarding, challenging, and fun flying I have ever done.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
skiermws
Flight Schools and Training
4
01-08-2009 09:03 AM



