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Old 01-22-2017, 01:43 PM
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From what I've recently heard.......IFL 727 has a very high attrition and failure rate, about 100%. They claim that everyone passes training, but that's only the ones they choose to pass,everyone else is either dismissed, fired, or quits. Pass rate is not the same as Finish rate, where maybe 0/10 finishes training, IOE and the 2 year contract. The ONE and only person JP who is really in charge of training/IOE has a lot of personal problems, and really takes enjoyment in making your life miserable, with failing people, demotion, mind games, or what ever he can do to to hurt someone. To top it all off, the company requires a Promisiry Note for the type rating, holding you prisoner with the threat of financial ruin if you quit or save yourself. So in the end, your lucky to make it out of IFL without any problems, be it either psychological or financial. But please don't take my word for it, go ahead and find out for yourself.
Looks like they're gearing up for another round of suckers. I look at these new guys like they're the most unfortunate group on earth....didn't they do they're homework on IFL??? Just a little search on APC should be enough of a warning to stay away, when EVERYONE else in the country is hiring. It would suck to have a 121 failure on your record.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:07 PM
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Not everyone has an ATP. We are providing them with a career path and giving them options. Yes, as I've said before, this job isn't for everyone but it is for some. It's better than being a CFI and not getting any airline experience before moving on imho.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:15 AM
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Absolutely it's not for everyone. So who is it for?
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:44 AM
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I'm a veteran of the piston DC3 and Convair days at IFL , we were like a family then , a squadron, what happened?
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:05 AM
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Absolutely it's not for everyone. So who is it for?

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As I have said, it is for the younger guys. Guys that don't want to spend their early years as a CFI. Guys that want to get into the jet world before their peers. Guys that want to get real, quality experience before their peers. We're all in a race to get to the top. This is one option to get you there. Not all of us were fed with golden spoons. We have to work to get there. Coming here gets you an ATP without having to add to your already giant student loans. Once you get your ATP, lots of doors open up. You can stick around and get some PIC time in the falcon, get some big jet experience in the 727, or go to the regionals or wherever. It all depends on you long term goals. There are lots of ways to get to your final destination. This is just one option. It's not easy. If that is the sort of thing you are looking for, then you're better off being a CFI until you get enough time to go straight to a regional. This is some of the hardest flying you will do in your career but it's also some of the most rewarding.

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Old 01-26-2017, 07:18 AM
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I'm a veteran of the piston DC3 and Convair days at IFL , we were like a family then , a squadron, what happened?
We are still a pretty tight knit family here IMHO. But there are guys who leave here with a sour taste in their mouth. As we grow, it's getting harder to maintain that family like feeling. But I believe we are holding on to it. Especially with the guys that stick around for a couple years. With the career path starting to be implemented, I see more of that family feeling atmosphere across the different fleets. I enjoy walking into the office and seeing our president, DO, chief pilot, and so on. Everyone knows everyone else. Maybe that's one of the reasons why I've been here for so long.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:39 AM
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Outstanding !!!
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:12 AM
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Hockey, which fleet are you on?
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hockey1082 View Post
As I have said, it is for the younger guys. Guys that don't want to spend their early years as a CFI. Guys that want to get into the jet world before their peers. Guys that want to get real, quality experience before their peers. We're all in a race to get to the top. This is one option to get you there. Not all of us were fed with golden spoons. We have to work to get there. Coming here gets you an ATP without having to add to your already giant student loans. Once you get your ATP, lots of doors open up. You can stick around and get some PIC time in the falcon, get some big jet experience in the 727, or go to the regionals or wherever. It all depends on you long term goals. There are lots of ways to get to your final destination. This is just one option. It's not easy. If that is the sort of thing you are looking for, then you're better off being a CFI until you get enough time to go straight to a regional. This is some of the hardest flying you will do in your career but it's also some of the most rewarding.
This would be an accurate representation of my experience with IFL. Not for everyone, but definitely the most challenging and rewarding flying. Not a bad place to "cut one's teeth", and come out with some good real world experience!!! IMO
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:57 PM
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I'm a veteran of the piston DC3 and Convair days at IFL , we were like a family then , a squadron, what happened?
It's still mostly the same, just a handful of angry rejects trying to sour IFL's good reputation.

I'm curious DHassenger and Godaddy, lots of us have posted our great memories of IFL, care to share specifically what your problems were? Where did you end up instead? Or are you indeed just trolls?

I'm sure I've said it in here before, but my time on the 727 at IFL will be the best days of my career.
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