cargopilot

From what you have heard, huh? Those are some strong words from someone that has "heard" about IFL. I don't know about anyone else, maybe I am crazy but I would never spread and slander someone's name on a public forum because I "heard" something about someone. Seems to me that you might be one of the fallen, one that couldn't hack it, one that couldn't keep pace. Yes, his teaching style is tough, demanding, and intense. But what you get out of it is priceless. He doesn't settle for mediocrity, he gives his best and he expects the same from you.

727C47

I was at IFL when it was a DC-3 and Convair company, the training was always good, and was always demanding,because the environment we operated in was always so demanding. No sims back then of course, we basically followed the Ernie Gann canon. At our round engine height in 1994, we had 9 DC-3's, 2 CV340's, and a DC-4. The CV580's started to show up in '95, the DC3's went bye,in '97, the DC4.in '96, and the CV340's in 2000. I'm proud of my alma mater,and their success in the present day,much of our then competition is smoke. Cheers out.

hockey1082

Getting passed [XXXXXXXX] is no easy task. He is tough, but he is an excellent instructor. He takes kids with 300 hours and teaches them how to not only be an engineer but a professional aviator. With a [CCCCCCCC] ground school foundation, you'll probably be the smartest guy in any class you go to when you leave. The experience will shape the rest of your career.

Remember, most of these guys don't have much/if any professional experience. The biggest thing they've flown is probably a seminole, and now they are sitting in the cockpit of a 727. He can't just let every button pusher through. He has very high standards and won't allow it, regardless of their credentials.

Some guys expect class to be a formality rather than a learning experience, and they end up being the disgruntled washouts. If you want a job spoon fed to you, go to a regional. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, those jobs are "brain off" easy. lol

If you've got a question, post it or send me a PM. I'll answer it honestly for you. Don't drag a good man's name through the dirt based on something you've heard.

hockey1082

I will say this. 10 guys walk in to class. 2 guys will leave before it's time to go to the sim on their own accord. They have their reasons, whether it be a better job offer or they realize this job is just to hard for them. 2 more guys will not be invited to the sim because they just aren't ready. Learning the systems is not a cake walk. There is a ton to learn. Sometimes the company offers to put you through the next class if they feel like you just need more time because they know how difficult it is for these guys. Now we have 6 guys going to the sim. 1 or 2 will either not be invited to take the check ride or fail the check ride or even walk away before the event because because of another job offer or they simply don't have the confidence. You don't take the check ride unless the instructor thinks you are ready. We are not in the business of ruining careers. Failures are taken personally. We don't just wash our hands and move on. We wonder what else could we have done. So in the end, 10 guys show up to the first day of class, and 4-5 make it all the way through.

We have new guys sign a 1 year contract/promissory note. There is a lot of time and effort spent on each person. In my opinion, it's the least you can do. Plus, you don't sign the note until you come back from the sim, and it decreases in value every month. You pay nothing unless you leave before your year is up.

One last thing, in the previous administration, everyone passed. The philosophy was different. It was basically a ticket to learn. The quality was poor and didn't work. With JP at the helm, we have professionals sitting in every seat, not just the left seat.

Braniff DC8

Any latest on K2? The Good the Bad the Ugly?

Checked in

Here's one for you... Maybe [blah blah blah] could use a dose of his own medicine? Promissory note,,, someone can shove it, or let the FAA pay it since they mandate the training. In any case, holding people prisoner in crap conditions, conditions they couldn't have imagined because they've always been lucky enough to avoid dysfuntion, via a note is a dirty practice; one of many old school tricks that needs to go once and for all.

Have a nice day.

RyeMex

They haven't been able to enforce the promissory note on anyone on the Falcon. Everyone signs it, but I know of about a dozen guys who have left while still "under contract" and the company hasn't been able to do anything about it.

Godaddy

Spending 18 days a month in Waterford MI...consider that there are no single women to meet, no dating environment, just a bunch of old ..., ...., smokers in Waterford MI. If your single, you are very likely to remain that way.

727C47

I met my wife at PTK when I flew for IFL , we were both flying DC-3's, you never know : )

hockey1082

Nobody is holding a gun to your head saying you have to work for us. There is plenty of time to walk away before you have to sign. Some people walk into this job not realizing just how hard it is. Some people just ignore everything we tell them in class about the job. This isn't a "window heat, pitot heat, what's to eat" company. You work long days and night. Sometimes with out a chance to eat or sleep. So you better be prepared. We give you several chances to walk away from our "crap conditions." In the end, you are the one that accepted them if you signed the contract. You can't blame anyone but yourself.