Black Meatball

With the talk of furloughs, does anyone know if you are allowed to do right seat corp flying on the side? I would like to get current again before anything bad happens and have an opportunity at my old company. Thanks

Jetjok

This has been discussed before, very recently as I remember. I believe the answer used to be with CP approval, but as of late, that approval has been hard, if not impossible to get.

JJ

BadGolfer

Answer is NO. The company will not approve anyone except exempt for Military.

Huck

I had the letter granting permission... it was abruptly revoked about a year ago. Not allowed at the company anymore... unless you're military.....

Lindy

C-Span Hearings

About a year ago the FAA held hearings regarding several employees and what is commonly referred to as "Whistle-Blower" statutes.

FedEx was specifically discussed for this very issue:

MD-11 Captain flew for FDX
MD-11 Captain had a charter business
issues regarding legality arose due to the mix of the flying
FAA Whistle-Blower alledged that FDX did not adequately punish the pilot

I watched the hearings (please refrain from the dork comments) and found them to be quite interesting. The FDX issue was just a blip on the radar scope, the hearings were primarily about the recent maintenance issues (remember AA and the MD-80s?? SWA and the 737s??) and collusion between the FAA and said companies.

Not sure about the time line:

Pilot Certifcate Action -- FAA Hearings -- Change in FOM

I am only pontificating about the change in the FOM, but that is how I connect the aforementioned "dots."


http://www.c-spanarchives.org/librar...ts_id=204707-1

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/librar...ts_id=204707-2 **This link specifically addresses FDX

kc10/c130

Lindy-

You really think we would say derogatory statements about others on this forum? I'm shocked.

MEMFO4Ever

Same here Huck. What they don't know won't hurt them. Apparently they think they own you. They don't.

bifff15

Is your company going to pay you while you get current? I would bet that your contract or FOM will prohibit flying for pay but not for pleasure. It's all about getting current right...

Black Meatball

Thanks all for the replies. I wonder if it just a pay thing? I could do this gig for free for a few weekends as it is a plane that requires 2 pilots for insurance. I'm just looking for some sort of currency in a window seat just incase the s$%t hits the fan. Not many panel jobs out there!

Busboy

9 See Oct. 31, 1990, Letter to Manager, NE-FSDO-03, from Donald P. Byrne, Acting Assistant Chief Counsel, Regulations and Enforcement Division [1990-32] ("Other commercial flying" means any nonmilitary flying as a required crewmember, other than in air transportation, for which the crewmember is paid for his or her services) (copy enclosed). So, for example, when an individual is paid (e.g., with money) for flying corporate officers on a corporate jet in Part 91 service or when an airman provides flight training for compensation to another, such Part 91 flying is "other commercial flying" for the corporate jet pilot and for the flight instructor. Also, to the extent that the pilot operates an aircraft, for example, under Parts 125, 133 or 137 and receives remuneration for his pilot services, such flight time is "other commercial flying." Additionally, to the extent that a pilot receives remuneration from the certificate holder for Part 91 ferry flights or test flights, such flight time is "other commercial flying."

From some FAA interpretation letter:

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...03/johnson.rtf