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Daniel Larusso 03-04-2009 12:38 PM

FDX-New NC message up.
 
https://crewroom.alpa.org/fdx/Deskto...cumentID=44873

Gunter 03-04-2009 02:04 PM

More good news. Great.

trigg41 03-04-2009 02:20 PM

Does this mean that they (ALPA) will furlough to protect the income of the senior?

Jumbo Pilot 03-04-2009 02:30 PM

That letter made me kind of sick to my stomach. I'm in the bottom 300 and that communication definitely did not inspire confidence in my union to do everything possible to protect my job.

I don't feel good about this.......

Tuck 03-04-2009 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by trigg41 (Post 572059)
Does this mean that they (ALPA) will furlough to protect the income of the senior?

I suspect. Heard JG and DM say at an LEC meeting that "we realize guys can't live off of much less than 58 CH/month and we'll have to come up with some sort of LOA soon"

Daniel Larusso 03-04-2009 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by trigg41 (Post 572059)
Does this mean that they (ALPA) will furlough to protect the income of the senior?

I don't think it necessarily means anything in particular except that whatever potential outcome results will be voted on by the pilot group. Between nervous junior pilots, a few BLG hungry senior ones, and some ALPA mistrust, I do think many will interpret this message as you have trigg41. If you read it all the way through, I don't think that's what they're saying though. They seem to be hinting at a potentially giving up on waiting for 777 and 4.a.2.b arb.(among other things) in exchange for a reduced BLG compromise with a defined exit, job protections, and FDA enhancements. In fact the way I read it, is that on the eve of dirty excess practice bid numero uno that will fully illustrate how bad things are, they are trying to keep us from devolving into class warfare over these next few months.

Daniel Larusso 03-04-2009 02:42 PM

Unless ALPA has a no-furlough or scope clause that they waive ahead of a furlough, the union does not furlough you the company does. The union(and individual pilots) can subsequently do a series of things that could prolong a furlough that can be considered as protecting the senior, but we obviously aren't at that point.

skypig 03-04-2009 02:48 PM

Duplicate message, user error :)

skypig 03-04-2009 02:49 PM

Is this letter referring to our upcoming negotiations in 2010?

Because I'm confused if it is in reference to some negotiations going on regarding 09-02 which is the title of the update. What negotiations would these be?

DLax85 03-04-2009 02:52 PM

Classic signaling between negotiators.

The message was intended for the company, as much as it was intended for us.

They are reaching out to offer a comprise, and perhaps solutions, to multiple issues.

It would behove all involved to sit down, listen, and work together.

If the company can get the right people in the right seats at the right price, perhaps both costs and jobs can be saved --- and FDX better positioned for the future.


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