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Old 03-08-2009 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Skymaster
That's right, UPS only exist to employ pilots. The sole function of UPS is to be an airline to insure pilots on it's seniority list have jobs.
Of course it doesn't...I was making a point to the poster that his logic was flawed. Anything else you need spelled out for ya...just let me know.

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Old 03-08-2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Skymaster
That's right, UPS only exist to employ pilots. The sole function of UPS is to be an airline to insure pilots on it's seniority list have jobs.
You're getting warm...UPS exists on many fronts. Decimating the competition (which they do extremely well, don't you think? ), creating animosity among factions of labor (which they are outstanding at), laundering money while crying poor and throwing away no asset before it's entirely used up (other than people that is).

How's that motivational seminar of yours going?
Old 03-08-2009 | 04:16 PM
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You guys.....stop fighting amongst yourselves!
Old 03-08-2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FR8K9
Mark my words-- UPS is about to have some of the best years in the 108 year history of this company!!

-Competition is gone
-oil is down
-they must be confident if they are buying back billions in their own stock
-buying airplanes
-fed is pumping money into the economy

I'll stand by my point, if we casually allow guys to be tossed to the street for years, this organization is done for!
Are you kidding me? What planet are you living on?

The government came out and said they expected unemployment to PEAK at the 7.5-8.5 range. WE ARE ALREADY THERE and still haven't hit the bottom. Unemployment is going to go over 10% easily and very soon too. That means less money spent on packages because nobody is buying anything and more foreclosures are coming as well.

The DOW is at 6,600, down from 11,400 less than 6 months ago. It will be below 5,000 in less than 3 MONTHS. Don't think so? Lets revisit this thread in a couple months. What makes FDX and UPS immune to the economic meltdown we are in....NOTHING.
Old 03-08-2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSfan
You guys.....stop fighting amongst yourselves!
He's not a UPS or Fed Ex guy...he's, well....
Old 03-08-2009 | 04:32 PM
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28,000 block hour reduction?

Let's not panic quite yet, brown brothers and sisters - that's MAYBE a 5% reduction.
Old 03-08-2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SonnyD
28,000 block hour reduction?

Let's not panic quite yet, brown brothers and sisters - that's MAYBE a 5% reduction.
I was never a whiz at math but 150,000 reduced to 122,000 is approx 18% or nearly four times your "MAYBE" estimate.

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Old 03-08-2009 | 05:04 PM
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I don't believe that we will be out out for five years! I bet somewhere between 1.5 to two! Here are the reasons why I believe that.

1. On 1 Sep 09 We will have 75 folks on property that will be over 65!

2. On 1 Sep 11 we will have another 58 folks that will be over 65! If the DC-8 is retired as the company plans that means 136 people that will be forced out with no place for them to go! (In case your wondering the retirements then speed up to 56, 57, 56 the following three years) These numbers are without any other attrition, i.e. early outs, deaths, etc

3. Since June 06 and Nov 07 the company hired over three hundred folks! Now to possibly lay off those same folks! I point this out because in three years the economy went from off the charts to the toilet, point here being things change very rapidly and no one saw this coming, so for someone to say how long its going to take for this mess to turn around is pure conjecture, nothing more!

Lets quit fighting amongst ourselves and put things in perspective. Although, I will be devastated if I am let go, I know that I will find a means to an end! I will survive and you will too! Lets quit with all this nonsense and wait and see how things fall out.
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail
Are you kidding me? What planet are you living on?

The government came out and said they expected unemployment to PEAK at the 7.5-8.5 range. WE ARE ALREADY THERE and still haven't hit the bottom. Unemployment is going to go over 10% easily and very soon too. That means less money spent on packages because nobody is buying anything and more foreclosures are coming as well.

The DOW is at 6,600, down from 11,400 less than 6 months ago. It will be below 5,000 in less than 3 MONTHS. Don't think so? Lets revisit this thread in a couple months. What makes FDX and UPS immune to the economic meltdown we are in....NOTHING.
We're all doomed!...Doomed I tell ya! Sheesh guy, have a little optimism...This country has bounced back from worse. People on this board were predicting the doom of this industry because of rising oil prices. Some dingaling even predicted $300/barrel oil and has since quietly slunk off in embarassment. NO ONE on THIS board has the slightest clue what the economy will look like in 3 months.

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Deleted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

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