R24 Climate?
03-11-2009, 11:08 AM
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R24 Climate?
Just got a quick question for the recent R24 bidders. What has been your utilization or more plainly "how has scheds been treating you"? Looking at bidding it in April. Thanks.
03-11-2009, 11:51 AM
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Saw a MEM HTSBY show up in open time today and took a look to see who was getting assigned these pairings and how many of them there were. When I looked at the other guys on HTSBY for other days of the week, lots of R24 guys sleeping in MEM for dollars. At least on the 11 F/O side it looks like they were not getting used much other than the HTSBY pairings and all the HTSBY pairings were assigned to R24 holders.
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03-11-2009, 12:04 PM
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Usual nonsense. Watched today two R24 guys get two 4 day hotel stbys. there's still one sitting in open time so doesn't look like too many people want to pick that up. Although the pay looks wrong. 4 days hotel stby, why wouldn't that pay Time Away? Seems like it should be over 20 hours.
03-11-2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kwri10s
Usual nonsense. Watched today two R24 guys get two 4 day hotel stbys. there's still one sitting in open time so doesn't look like too many people want to pick that up. Although the pay looks wrong. 4 days hotel stby, why wouldn't that pay Time Away? Seems like it should be over 20 hours.
03-11-2009, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by a300fr8dog
I wondered on the pay, too, when it happened to me. You end up getting reserve leveling credit: so they figure (# of days) x (R-day value) = CH. BTW, they are only supposed to bring an R24 guy into hotel standby if they would have to draft to fill a local airport standby.
I'd say take it to contract enforcement but they probably figure you are trying to "game the system" by wanting to stay home when you are on R-24.
03-11-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by a300fr8dog
I wondered on the pay, too, when it happened to me. You end up getting reserve leveling credit: so they figure (# of days) x (R-day value) = CH. BTW, they are only supposed to bring an R24 guy into hotel standby if they would have to draft to fill a local airport standby.
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03-11-2009, 03:00 PM
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Looks like 3153 should pay 23+36 based on TAFB. Did I miss something in the contract that allows them to pay less for a HTSTBY pairing!? Good catch.
Update:
Yep, I knew airport standby in base paid R day value, but did not know that applied to hotel standby in base as well.
Section 4.O. Minimum Guarantees and Other Pay Provisions - Base Standby Pay
1. A pilot on base airport or base hotel standby shall be guaranteed minimum standby pay of an R-day value, except as provided in Section 4.O.2. (below).
2. If a pilot eligible for substitution is assigned a base stand-by, (as provided in Section 25.H.5.d.), and does not block-out on a trip, he shall be credited with 6 CH towards his substitution guarantee. If he blocks out on a trip, he shall be compensated the greater of trip guarantee for such trip or substitution availability credit.
3. If a pilot on base airport standby blocks out on a trip, he shall earn the trip guarantee for that trip, with the calculation of MPDP and duty rig beginning at showtime of the standby period.
4. If a pilot on base hotel standby blocks out on a trip, he shall earn the trip guarantee for that trip.
Update:
Yep, I knew airport standby in base paid R day value, but did not know that applied to hotel standby in base as well.
Section 4.O. Minimum Guarantees and Other Pay Provisions - Base Standby Pay
1. A pilot on base airport or base hotel standby shall be guaranteed minimum standby pay of an R-day value, except as provided in Section 4.O.2. (below).
2. If a pilot eligible for substitution is assigned a base stand-by, (as provided in Section 25.H.5.d.), and does not block-out on a trip, he shall be credited with 6 CH towards his substitution guarantee. If he blocks out on a trip, he shall be compensated the greater of trip guarantee for such trip or substitution availability credit.
3. If a pilot on base airport standby blocks out on a trip, he shall earn the trip guarantee for that trip, with the calculation of MPDP and duty rig beginning at showtime of the standby period.
4. If a pilot on base hotel standby blocks out on a trip, he shall earn the trip guarantee for that trip.
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