UPS: MOU numbers
#14
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I am signing up today as I had planned to do last week. Now that there is a change in the RGL options, I will be signing up for even more. I just don't get it though. I talked to one of the 300 and he had no clue about the MOU. He knew it was out there, but did not seem interested in participation. It was like he was living in some other world. Please guys, if you could just sign up for one or two bid periods of a 65 hour line, please do so. I would be very disappointed in this pilot group if we allow UPS to furlough..
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#16
Also remember that UPS is the deciding factor in if they "allow" furloughs not the union.
#17
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I just don't get this way of thinking. What other pilot group has gotten even as far as this MOU? The contract is still in one piece with senior members volunteering to give up pay to help somebody else. It may not pass but a realistic view of what has happened at other airlines should clearly show a great effort by the IPA membership.
Also remember that UPS is the deciding factor in if they "allow" furloughs not the union.
Also remember that UPS is the deciding factor in if they "allow" furloughs not the union.
And as far as other airlines, tell me one that has furloughed while making millions in profit every quarter? UPS is not like other airlines, if you know what I mean.
#18
Either way this thing goes down, it will be a case study in modern corporate/union relations. Unions are struggling these days, and we have a chance to make a statement and help determine our own futures.
Personally I haven't yet signed up as I am on the road but will sign up for military leave when I get back to my military unit early next week. I think we will come through; it seems this group always comes through at the end (remember 808 by 8/08???). There are some in our union who just don't get it, don't care, or feel it's a personal thing against UPS to not do anything. The best thing we can do is encourage the guys/girls you fly with to sign up for something.
Personally I haven't yet signed up as I am on the road but will sign up for military leave when I get back to my military unit early next week. I think we will come through; it seems this group always comes through at the end (remember 808 by 8/08???). There are some in our union who just don't get it, don't care, or feel it's a personal thing against UPS to not do anything. The best thing we can do is encourage the guys/girls you fly with to sign up for something.
I am in the same situation, taking 60 days or more of Mil is extremely difficult to snag. Most of us are going to have to stitch together some kind of pay check just for the near term. The extension has given me more time to be creative to develope more options, however, this window will close. I am flying with two captains that worked out a JS while we ate dinner. This is about unity, regardless of your personal logic. The contract in 2012+ will be effected by what happens now.
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#19
I wonder what effect the message sent out by the union a week or so ago that stated participation was strong across all groups had on people continuing to sign up. Maybe those first few signed up quickly and made them optimistic. I for one remember thinking "oh, it looks like we'll get our #s" and was in no rush to submit my paperwork (although I did today).
Also do you guys think the majority of us are paying close attention to this. I think a small percentage actually follow the forums closely (APC and B&G). I dont know how many read the daily union messages. I could be wrong (hope I am) about who's really pay attention but its obviously a problem if a lot of folks are somewhat oblivious to all thats happening....
Also thought the message sent out by the IPA last night was pretty good and cleared up a lot of rumors and misconceptions
Also do you guys think the majority of us are paying close attention to this. I think a small percentage actually follow the forums closely (APC and B&G). I dont know how many read the daily union messages. I could be wrong (hope I am) about who's really pay attention but its obviously a problem if a lot of folks are somewhat oblivious to all thats happening....
Also thought the message sent out by the IPA last night was pretty good and cleared up a lot of rumors and misconceptions
#20
I am signing up today as I had planned to do last week. Now that there is a change in the RGL options, I will be signing up for even more. I just don't get it though. I talked to one of the 300 and he had no clue about the MOU. He knew it was out there, but did not seem interested in participation. It was like he was living in some other world. Please guys, if you could just sign up for one or two bid periods of a 65 hour line, please do so. I would be very disappointed in this pilot group if we allow UPS to furlough..
I agree with you 100%....if everyone would just sign up for one or two bid periods of RLG, it would make a huge impact.
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