I need some encouragement :(
06-07-2006 | 12:06 PM
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I am in the Army as as Warrant with 13 years, even though the pay is not that bad nor the stability, I would love to be in your shoes right now. So here are my words of encouragement. Just be patient, a change is going to come, thank God for your blessing that you have as you are reading this, because a lot of your flight brother's and sisters out there on the grind has not recovered from Sept 11th yet. Some are flying for a little of nothing and some are still on furlough waiting for that phone call. I am glad to see that you are with a stable company, so just take out time to see life for what it is worth and the blessing that the Chief Pilot Upstairs has given you. Fly Safe///Keep the Dirty Side Down Brother.
06-07-2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by byrdseyeviewinc
I am glad to see that you are with a stable company, so just take out time to see life for what it is worth and the blessing that the Chief Pilot Upstairs has given you. Fly Safe///Keep the Dirty Side Down Brother.
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06-07-2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Murphy
Using this website, I figured for 2nd year FO to equal 2nd year FO widebody pay at FedEx it should be roughly 105/hour. This is based on credit differences. So if you consider that is FedEx's old contract, I don't think 120/hour is to much of a dream. You get a vote, if it's not what you like, vote no.
06-08-2006 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
SAy what? WE get 975 credit hours per year minimum. That's very close to FedEx so our hourly rates need to be similar. Sometimes a duck is a duck.
Hence, 888*117=103897 and 106*975=103,350.
Where is the confusion?
06-08-2006 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Murphy
Yes, we get 975, but according to this they get 888 a year minimum for a difference of 87 hrs/yr, or 7.25 hrs./month after conversion to monthly pay.
Hence, 888*117=103897 and 106*975=103,350.
Where is the confusion?
Hence, 888*117=103897 and 106*975=103,350.
Where is the confusion?
When you factor in the time value of money that difference in 2d year pay grows over the years. I think of it as an investment. 120k invested today versus 75 k invested today grows to a huge difference. Anyway we are getting ripped off by the company. USAF pilots make a lot more than most FOs at UPS.
06-08-2006 | 08:49 AM
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Lil' J, I think you and I are in agreement. Really I was just pointing out to the freightpup some basic numbers, and that 120 shouldn't be a dream. It is a very realistic, attainable number that UPS can afford to pay.
06-08-2006 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Murphy
Lil' J, I think you and I are in agreement. Really I was just pointing out to the freightpup some basic numbers, and that 120 shouldn't be a dream. It is a very realistic, attainable number that UPS can afford to pay.
06-13-2006 | 04:43 AM
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Just another Walmart shopper
I know I might get some brown stuff thrown my way, 
but whats up with your contract negotiations?? Some of us purple types thought (a long time ago now) that, you'z guys, entering nego a year before us, and..... well, being an all union shop, you'd have set the standard that (we) could draft off of. We kinda was figuren' that (by now) you would be beating your chests ( except for you, Freight Puppy ) about how much better a deal you got than FedEx. Now were all stuck in the mud wondering who's going the get the deal done first, and take the sh** (from the other) for settling for too little. With inflation and all eating away at our static incomes, pretty soon we're going to have to shop at Walmart! 
but whats up with your contract negotiations?? Some of us purple types thought (a long time ago now) that, you'z guys, entering nego a year before us, and..... well, being an all union shop, you'd have set the standard that (we) could draft off of. We kinda was figuren' that (by now) you would be beating your chests ( except for you, Freight Puppy ) about how much better a deal you got than FedEx. Now were all stuck in the mud wondering who's going the get the deal done first, and take the sh** (from the other) for settling for too little. With inflation and all eating away at our static incomes, pretty soon we're going to have to shop at Walmart!
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