FDX-Multi-leg deadheads
07-16-2009 | 08:17 AM
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FDX-Multi-leg deadheads
Anyone know if we ever got the ability to deviate portions of a multi-leg deadhead fixed? It used to be that we could deviate on just a portion of a multi-leg deadhead but for the last couple of years that ability was eliminated. Now when you deviate on a multi-leg deadhead you have to deviate on all the legs of that deadhead.
As an alternative, has anyone had any feedback on what happens from global travel or management if you simply fail to show up for a portion of a multi-leg deadhead? In other words, if say I have a deadhead from EWR through PDX to ANC and I take the first leg from EWR to PDX as scheduled but then just not show up for the second leg. What about canceling the second leg with the airline once I reach PDX?
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As an alternative, has anyone had any feedback on what happens from global travel or management if you simply fail to show up for a portion of a multi-leg deadhead? In other words, if say I have a deadhead from EWR through PDX to ANC and I take the first leg from EWR to PDX as scheduled but then just not show up for the second leg. What about canceling the second leg with the airline once I reach PDX?
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07-16-2009 | 08:39 AM
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Can't deviate on only 1 portion of a DH sequence (Front, mid, or back). Deviate on one leg of a front end DH, for example, and all front end DH legs are canceled. Including ground transportation. You get to keep the hotel if one is included. I believe you will get a nice warning screen advising you of that fact. Does not matter if domestic or intl.
Good question on not showing up for the second leg. Airlines might have a right to charge the fare they would have gotten for the part you flew. I have seen higher fares for EWR-MEM than for EWR-MEM-XXX. I don't know if audit would hold you responsible for that fare differential as a personal expense.
Can't cancel a ticket once you start flying it. It is all or nothing.
Good question on not showing up for the second leg. Airlines might have a right to charge the fare they would have gotten for the part you flew. I have seen higher fares for EWR-MEM than for EWR-MEM-XXX. I don't know if audit would hold you responsible for that fare differential as a personal expense.
Can't cancel a ticket once you start flying it. It is all or nothing.
07-16-2009 | 02:17 PM
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Can't deviate on only 1 portion of a DH sequence (Front, mid, or back). Deviate on one leg of a front end DH, for example, and all front end DH legs are canceled. Including ground transportation. You get to keep the hotel if one is included. I believe you will get a nice warning screen advising you of that fact. Does not matter if domestic or intl.
07-16-2009 | 03:06 PM
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Not sure if that's true. The system will allow you to cancel what portion you want. I seem to remember an FCIF on this that specifically mentioned that all segments are cancelled but then Global Travel rebooks the uncancelled portions but it's up to us to make sure they are still in the system. Anyone else?
If you're talking about the DHs that have a hotel layover in between legs(like long int'l DHs), on those it's cancel one, cancel all. I’m pretty sure it’s that way for any multi-leg DH. Global travel will not re-book unless you tell them to and then it's seen as any other deviation. Basically, it's not possible to only deviate one leg without affecting them all.
The multi-day DHs are easier to deal with than DHs with multiple flights the same day. The easiest way to deal with this is to use the scheduled DH to get as far as you want to get (like back into the US). Then once you've done that, call GT and have them cancel the portion of the DH you won't be using. At least then, those funds are available for you to use to get where you do want to go once you're back in the USA.
If you're on a DH with a connection but it is happening all on the same day, I don't think it's possible to break it out and cancel a portion of the itinerary (because it's all part of of the same ticket). I've had situations where multi-leg DHs have a connection in the city where I live. I don't deviate, use the scheduled DH and then I just let the airline know that I won't be using the second leg. The funds for the leg you don't use are not going to be available for future deviations, obviously. Never had a problem with this from the airline or management.
07-16-2009 | 03:19 PM
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Another small but important point, if your DH is international, if you cancel one leg, it WILL cancel both legs. There is a warning for this, but...that's how it works. Domesticly, you can pick and choose. Another option is to call crew travel
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07-17-2009 | 01:29 PM
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This is what I did. Called global travel and made sure the second leg LAX-NRT was available on the day that I was originally scheduled. Made sure same price and class of service. When they said it was, I hit the deviate button and asked them to book me. That way if the flight canx I was covered. JL had wrote a letter referencing this procedure. Don't know about the current chief pilot.
07-17-2009 | 02:36 PM
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07-20-2009 | 08:25 PM
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"...I've had situations where multi-leg DHs have a connection in the city where I live. I don't deviate, use the scheduled DH and then I just let the airline know that I won't be using the second leg. The funds for the leg you don't use are not going to be available for future deviations, obviously. Never had a problem with this from the airline or management."
That describes exactly what I want to do!! Thank you so much!
That describes exactly what I want to do!! Thank you so much!
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