We have cut out two whole fleets and what is the company's response, cut managers by a similar amount? No, it's to make up work and find them other things to do. Even if you take the economics out of the situation, who needs these extra bodies hanging around shuffling magazines and emptying ash trays?

I really hope that they come to us for more in November because I am not going to be able to say NO quick enough or loud enough.

 

So true, so very true.

 

I guess Toejam was done straightening magazines and got all of his ash trays emptied early so they had to give him something to do.

To think that we should be grateful that they understaff and rely on managers to do our work. Pullleeeeeze

 

What I'd REALLY like to know is how they get away with straightening magazines (company duty) during the day, then cover MEF at night ?

Must be a lot of "reduced rest" to return to the sort legally by 0100 ...

I'll go back to counting my Lucky Charms that we have this valuable resource at our companies disposal.

 

Typical UPS, give them an inch in contract language and they take it for miles, many miles. If this issue winds up in court as it very well may, the companies almost daily use of management EMERGENCY flying will certainly dilute the intent and meaning of emergency. Once again, they (UPS) seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with their arrogance.

 

Just another management pogue trying to justify his job and feel like he actually contributes in some way to the success of ups.

JMO

Pilot7576

 

I find it very interesting that shortly after our union announces the supervisor integration drive there seem to be new posts popping up from what appears to be management pilots... After all, why would they even care to share with us what they think, right?

Reading BM's email I think the company really IS worried about the new leverage the IPA might now have in pursuing the supervisor integration (mainly the new, more union friendly NMB member)...
At this point I think there's only one thing the company can do to derail this inevitable train heading in their direction - stir up our ranks and make the IPA pilots so resentful toward the supervisors that we'll overwelmingly vote down an integration... In other words let us do their bidding for them! Use the seniority issue or the idea of what's fair and what's not; a defeatist "what's the point" attitude, or simply the fact there's no love between the two groups...

Doesn't matter as long as they'll make us want what they want ==>>> NO INTEGRATION! <<<==

Reading some of the posts here I feel like the company's plan seem to be working out pretty well so far...

 

Bob's going to have to show me where a seniority integration is required under the law. If the jobs are ours, they are ours. I the board finds for that, the people now known as "managers" can go wash trucks or wrap twine for all I care.

More likely what you are seeing is Bob setting this thing up to fail himself by creating an artificial barrier once again, or another case of him negotiating for a settlement with the company which will not truly test the language or the law. Like he said, a loss at that venue would be permanent

 

If anyone needs any more convincing about whether or not UPS sucks the hairy beanbag, all you need to do is read this thread from a management savior.

 

I'll call the union Monday, but does anyone now know the answers to these:

1. What is the percentage of revenue block hours flown by management? How many block hours does this percentage represent?

2. Of this number of block hours, how much was MPF and how much was MEF?

3. Was someone displaced for 100% of the MPF? If not, why not?

WW