Future need for f/e s
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Also they're are 2 in a pax config doing charters(mostly military)
Unfortunately they will join the rest of their brethren in AZ by next year.

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All of you are wrong. NWA Cargo is STILL flying 747-200's which require a FE/SO. 
Also they're are 2 in a pax config doing charters(mostly military)
Unfortunately they will join the rest of their brethren in AZ by next year.
Not many people get to doze for dollars anymore. It's a dying position.

Also they're are 2 in a pax config doing charters(mostly military)
Unfortunately they will join the rest of their brethren in AZ by next year.

Not many people get to doze for dollars anymore. It's a dying position.

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Does anyone know if Air France is still flying the 747-400 with a flight engineer. Yes, I know, that jet doesn't have an engineer's panel, however, they did operate with a FE just sitting on the jumpseat for a while. He, or she, had no duties that you could see, so it must have been in their contract.
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Does anyone know if Air France is still flying the 747-400 with a flight engineer. Yes, I know, that jet doesn't have an engineer's panel, however, they did operate with a FE just sitting on the jumpseat for a while. He, or she, had no duties that you could see, so it must have been in their contract.
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Busboy, I thought all the 727s will be be gone in a couple years. And haven't all the Tens been MDized? That leaves A-300s. They still in the fleet plan? I'm way out of the loop.
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2. The 10s are no longer flying, but 4 or 5 are sitting in VCV waiting for MD conversion slots to open.
3. All our A300s are -600s with 2-person glass cockpits, not -B4s with 3 person cockpits.
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Does anyone know if Air France is still flying the 747-400 with a flight engineer. Yes, I know, that jet doesn't have an engineer's panel, however, they did operate with a FE just sitting on the jumpseat for a while. He, or she, had no duties that you could see, so it must have been in their contract. JJ
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Here's some trivia. If you ever jumpseat on a 737 and there's a second jumpseat, now you know why it's there. You had to have two so a fed and the third man could ride in the cockpit.
British Airways used to have a flight attendant ride on their all cargo planes. She would function as a fire guard when not serving the cockpit.
British Airways used to have a flight attendant ride on their all cargo planes. She would function as a fire guard when not serving the cockpit.
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Some of the best flight engineers I've flown with at World were PFE's. Having said that, it's a dying breed. If you want to get into the cockpit, you'll need to be a pilot.
I have a year to go to finish my A&P and am taking my cfi ride next week. When the hiring starts again, will any of the cargo companies need flight engineers? Besides finishing the A&P and taking the F/E written, what else is invloved in getting the F/E ticket? I'm interested I'm getting on with a cargo company as a flight engineer.
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