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WorldTraveler 08-14-2009 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by JustUnderPar (Post 662068)

Ever talk to anyone at a legacy that flies the 777. 2 Round trips a month and that is it. Dont even get them started on Vacation, Carry-in, "strategic bidding"......they get all excited. 15+ hours on an airplane (not in first class) YIKES!!!!

So I think the Polar ops are a good thing. More pilots, no DH's on these flights....Just my humble opinion.:D

I usually do polar flights (IAD-PEK) and other high latitude, great circle type flights (IAD-NRT, DXB-IAD, FRA-SFO, etc. )flights: LOVE THEM! They are our most senior trips.

Usually 50 hours away from base with a flight time of 27+ hours. 2 relief pilots means the flight is broken up in half for breaks. ATC is very slow paced and the layovers are just long enough to get a pop, get some rest and do a little sightseeing. Some trips are even timed in such a way they are mostly on the front side of the body clock.

We do three a month. 81 hours pay, about 150 hours away from base. Highly civilized flying and as I said it is our most senior flying.

JustUnderPar 08-14-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by WorldTraveler (Post 662097)
I usually do polar flights (IAD-PEK) and other high latitude, great circle type flights (IAD-NRT, DXB-IAD, FRA-SFO, etc. )flights: LOVE THEM! They are our most senior trips.

Usually 50 hours away from base with a flight time of 27+ hours. 2 relief pilots means the flight is broken up in half for breaks. ATC is very slow paced and the layovers are just long enough to get a pop, get some rest and do a little sightseeing. Some trips are even timed in such a way they are mostly on the front side of the body clock.

We do three a month. 81 hours pay, about 150 hours away from base. Highly civilized flying and as I said it is our most senior flying.

Thanks Greg,
I actually hope to see this type of flying at UPS. I think it will go senior here even if there is no $$$ incentive (one pay scale).

Most guys/gals that I have spoken to about this type of flying really love it.

JUP

TheBaron 08-14-2009 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 661380)
FedEx line crews fly polar routes routinely (have done 3 myself) ... why is it a management function at Ooooops?

Curious as to when you did this last. I haven't seen a polar route in the bid pack in over 3 years.

GOCKY 08-27-2009 05:23 PM

Anyone heard if it went smoothly?

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 08-27-2009 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by GOCKY (Post 669104)
Anyone heard if it went smoothly?

The geographical North and South poles will be moved accordingly to UPS's needs... There should be a Must Read Bulletin coming out any day now... ;)

Freightpuppy 08-27-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot7576 (Post 661419)
Folks...

The IPA pilot is there to make sure the flight gets there ok....you know, adult supervision...

Pilot7576

Ha ha ha....amen to that!

Archie Bunker 08-27-2009 09:29 PM

Anybody check out some of those emergency divert airfields? Or should I say "alert strips?" It should be interesting landing a 747-400 on a 5500 ft gravel runway, should an emergency dictate. Are there any Boeing "hotels" or "landmarks" in those fields that anyone knows about???

jungle 08-27-2009 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 669203)
Anybody check out some of those emergency divert airfields? Or should I say "alert strips?" It should be interesting landing a 747-400 on a 5500 ft gravel runway, should an emergency dictate. Are there any Boeing "hotels" or "landmarks" in those fields that anyone knows about???

Better to plow gravel than swim.:)

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 08-27-2009 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 669203)
Anybody check out some of those emergency divert airfields? Or should I say "alert strips?" It should be interesting landing a 747-400 on a 5500 ft gravel runway...

Where are those strips located? Alaska or in Rossija? :confused:

Tigerpilot1995 08-28-2009 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 669203)
Anybody check out some of those emergency divert airfields? Or should I say "alert strips?" It should be interesting landing a 747-400 on a 5500 ft gravel runway, should an emergency dictate. Are there any Boeing "hotels" or "landmarks" in those fields that anyone knows about???

Why don't those fields go right into the Jepp bricks?


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