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Old 08-31-2009, 09:45 PM
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Aside from a used wipe or leftover thermos, what's up with finding the mountain spring water bottles under the rudder pedals? Honest mistake left behind or is someone screwing with junior crews? Thoughts?

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Old 08-31-2009, 10:26 PM
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Aside from a used wipe or leftover thermos, what's up with finding the mountain spring water bottles under the rudder pedals? Honest mistake left behind or is someone screwing with junior crews? Thoughts?

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I found a litre bottle of orange juice behine the pedals once. I can only imagine what their homes look like
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:05 PM
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Honest mistake left behind or is someone screwing with junior crews? Thoughts?
Thoughts? Okay - My thought is that this is a stupid question.
No one I've flown with takes the time to check and see who is taking the jet from them - never mind any further effort to "screw with" that follow on crew by FODDING out their cockpit with various debris based on their seniority.
Get a grip.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bleedairpacks View Post
Aside from a used wipe or leftover thermos, what's up with finding the mountain spring water bottles under the rudder pedals? Honest mistake left behind or is someone screwing with junior crews? Thoughts?

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You cant be serious are you? No one Fods a cockpit on purpose, we are just too impaired with quality grub, or expensive water, to clean up after ourselves. Oh and maybe the fact that it is 7 am when we crawl out of our "nest". But we should all pay attention to things like cleaning up after ourselves.
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Originally Posted by bleedairpacks View Post
Aside from a used wipe or leftover thermos, what's up with finding the mountain spring water bottles under the rudder pedals? Honest mistake left behind or is someone screwing with junior crews? Thoughts?

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While PP's question is sort of retarded, it does bring up a good point in that doing your job in a professional manner, does in fact, include the little and mundane things like cleaning up after ones self. I used to hate having to clean up after the previous crew, whether it was to re-file the LIDO charts, or throwing out their half-used water bottles or coffee cups. When I was in the back seat, I hated having to clean off that small white grease board on the S/O panel, always wondering why the previous guy couldn't find time out of his "busy" flight to clean up his own mess.

However, all of the above said, it's still your job to preflight your work area, and under/behind the rudder pedals is part of that responsibility. The first time you notice that some FOD is wedged behind a pedal should not be on a MTOGW abort, just below V1.

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Originally Posted by Jetjok View Post
While PP's question is sort of retarded, it does bring up a good point in that doing your job in a professional manner, does in fact, include the little and mundane things like cleaning up after ones self. I used to hate having to clean up after the previous crew, whether it was to re-file the LIDO charts, or throwing out their half-used water bottles or coffee cups. When I was in the back seat, I hated having to clean off that small white grease board on the S/O panel, always wondering why the previous guy couldn't find time out of his "busy" flight to clean up his own mess.

However, all of the above said, it's still your job to preflight your work area, and under/behind the rudder pedals is part of that responsibility. The first time you notice that some FOD is wedged behind a pedal should not be on a MTOGW abort, just below V1.

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You mean like a gust lock ?


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Speaking from experience it seems.

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Old 09-01-2009, 05:27 AM
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I recently read an accident investigation article. At the accident scene they were unable to locate the Capt.(although there was little chance he had survived). He was eventually located under/behind the rudder pedals ... it would appear he wasn't wearing his "crotch strap" (that's why it's there, so that you don't "submarine" out from under the lap belt ...
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I recently read an accident investigation article. At the accident scene they were unable to locate the Capt.(although there was little chance he had survived). He was eventually located under/behind the rudder pedals ... it would appear he wasn't wearing his "crotch strap" (that's why it's there, so that you don't "submarine" out from under the lap belt ...
My guess, the capt was not worried about how long it took to find him and does not regret his decision not to make his gonads his personal point of impact.
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My guess, the capt was not worried about how long it took to find him and does not regret his decision not to make his gonads his personal point of impact.
LAG...you crack me up!
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