UPS- How Come??
03-02-2010 | 12:04 PM
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From: Leftof longitudinal
To be honest, I can't find a referrence on the internet for fy 2010. I know that the teams change year by year and I was supprised when someone told me FedEx and you were on the same team. The general drift is the same. Is UPS flying it's full alloment or not? We have planes sitting, but we can't fly any more mil cargo. We are at our limit.
No reason UPS can't put the excess airlift capacity into flying more of the UPS Team award.
03-02-2010 | 12:35 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airlines_(5M)
I seem to recall a browntail 744 stopping off @ LPLA more than once with in the last year.
How many years has it been since the 8 flew out of CONUS?
So UPS sold a 40 year old plane that was not reliable and expensive to operate to a company that has 2 63's, 1 71 and a saab and 2 jetstream's.
So you are saying UPS should have kept the 8 and not send the 744 for CRAF flights?
I seem to recall a browntail 744 stopping off @ LPLA more than once with in the last year.
How many years has it been since the 8 flew out of CONUS?
So UPS sold a 40 year old plane that was not reliable and expensive to operate to a company that has 2 63's, 1 71 and a saab and 2 jetstream's.
So you are saying UPS should have kept the 8 and not send the 744 for CRAF flights?
03-02-2010 | 12:40 PM
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A good hound dog knows his scent - 803/807 struck a cord, found ye olde log book and noted flights in 803UP & 807UP, irony is two months after UPS ends DC-8 flights, there's a couple of freshly painted DC-8's labeled 803DH & 807DH - coincidence - I don't know, but remember just because I'm not paranoid doesn't mean that everyone's not out to get me...
03-02-2010 | 09:51 PM
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As an non UPS pilot, I'd have to ask a couple of questions.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
JJP,
Here is the link for the FY2010 awards.
The US Military’s International Airlift Contracts
Bottom line: UPS could fly more of the UPS air team lift, even the 74 could fly the MRAP-ATV lift currently in play. Instead DOD can't get enough so they use non US AN-124's etc.
03-02-2010 | 09:56 PM
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From: Leftof longitudinal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airlines_(5M)
I seem to recall a browntail 744 stopping off @ LPLA more than once with in the last year.
How many years has it been since the 8 flew out of CONUS?
So UPS sold a 40 year old plane that was not reliable and expensive to operate to a company that has 2 63's, 1 71 and a saab and 2 jetstream's.
So you are saying UPS should have kept the 8 and not send the 744 for CRAF flights?
I seem to recall a browntail 744 stopping off @ LPLA more than once with in the last year.
How many years has it been since the 8 flew out of CONUS?
So UPS sold a 40 year old plane that was not reliable and expensive to operate to a company that has 2 63's, 1 71 and a saab and 2 jetstream's.
So you are saying UPS should have kept the 8 and not send the 744 for CRAF flights?
Takes real management to make the profit. UPS has smart people, so very possible if they wanted to make the money to manage the volumes between core business and the likewise profitable DOD charters. FedEx has a good management program to do exactly what UPS could accomplish.
03-03-2010 | 03:07 AM
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To tag onto SDs explanation above. After talking with a member of our charter team (logistics type on my flight), there is much more business available for his small department. The problem is convincing people outside of his department to commit resources to pursue such business.
03-03-2010 | 10:06 AM
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To tag onto SDs explanation above. After talking with a member of our charter team (logistics type on my flight), there is much more business available for his small department. The problem is convincing people outside of his department to commit resources to pursue such business.
03-04-2010 | 05:15 AM
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Thanks for the info.
JJP,
Here is the link for the FY2010 awards.
The US Military’s International Airlift Contracts
Bottom line: UPS could fly more of the UPS air team lift, even the 74 could fly the MRAP-ATV lift currently in play. Instead DOD can't get enough so they use non US AN-124's etc.
Here is the link for the FY2010 awards.
The US Military’s International Airlift Contracts
Bottom line: UPS could fly more of the UPS air team lift, even the 74 could fly the MRAP-ATV lift currently in play. Instead DOD can't get enough so they use non US AN-124's etc.
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