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2dotslow 07-22-2006 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=MD11Fr8Dog]'slow Yea, I get it alright! QUOTE]

Zing! Nice goggle-look just the same. You had to be the stunt double for Tom Hanks' volleyball in that movie. I digress. Say what you want about sims, planes, crews, concepts, managing, ad nauseum... the underlying problem you had/have isn't manifested in just this one guy. It's the member/nonmember issue that sticks in your craw, and in this case you highlighted your selective air discipline for the entire board to read. Nice job. My 2-man teams at the car wash demonstate a more professional attitude daily, but hey...MD-11, 2 pilots, flying boxes, no big deal...in the real world.

FoxHunter 07-22-2006 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
That wouldn't have happened to any of the rest of us!!

Because the member would have flown the trip as scheduled. In the TH case the F/O wanted to stick it to him because he was a non-member and management decided to call a foul.;)

dckozak 07-22-2006 08:27 AM

"Don't call me Capt, call me GOD!!"
 

Originally Posted by 2dotslow
................ Fr8Hauler...I've said it before, you're a co-pilot. OK? When you finally get a fourth bar people might take you seriously. Until then...just read the checklist when it's called for.

So I guess we got a good idea of your CRM skills! ;) :eek:

2dotslow 07-22-2006 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by dckozak
So I guess we got a good idea of your CRM skills! ;) :eek:

Special case, one of my board faves. On a 2-man crew, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-22-2006 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter
BTW, he still has representation as a non-member.:D

Not a given!

MD11Fr8Dog 07-22-2006 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=2dotslow]

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
'slow Yea, I get it alright! QUOTE]
It's the member/nonmember issue that sticks in your craw,

Nothing in my craw about nonmember issues, other than they reap the rewards while working against the pilot group! I leave all nonmembers issues out of the cockpit.


and in this case you highlighted your selective air discipline for the entire board to read. Nice job.
Nothing selective about it all. This guy is the poster child for unprofessional, pompous, idiot, axxhole pilots. Since you don't know his history, nor mine with him, then your opinion is meaningless to me.

2dotslow 07-22-2006 11:50 AM

[QUOTE=MD11Fr8Dog]

Originally Posted by 2dotslow
Nothing in my craw about nonmember issues, other than they reap the rewards while working against the pilot group! I leave all nonmembers issues out of the cockpit.
Nothing selective about it all. This guy is the poster child for unprofessional, pompous, idiot, axxhole pilots. Since you don't know his history, nor mine with him, then your opinion is meaningless to me.

OK, 8dog, I see. You're the good guy, he's the bad guy, and lowering your seat and assuming a relaxed position is obstensibly company-approved CRM for the situation, i.e. the grinning LCA. Perhaps this explains FedEx's tendency to slow-roll 3-holers in the flare every so often...EWR and MEM come to mind. Well, like they say, train as you fly, fly as you train. It's been a gas, but back to monitoring the crew coordination of my fellow car wash prrofessionals.;)

MD11Fr8Dog 07-22-2006 02:09 PM

[QUOTE=2dotslow]

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog

OK, 8dog, I see. You're the good guy, he's the bad guy, and lowering your seat and assuming a relaxed position is obstensibly company-approved CRM for the situation, i.e. the grinning LCA. Perhaps this explains FedEx's tendency to slow-roll 3-holers in the flare every so often...EWR and MEM come to mind. Well, like they say, train as you fly, fly as you train. It's been a gas, but back to monitoring the crew coordination of my fellow car wash prrofessionals.;)


Wax on, Wax off!

FR8Hauler 07-22-2006 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by 2dotslow
FR8Hauler

Fr8Hauler[/B]...I've said it before, you're a co-pilot. OK? When you finally get a fourth bar people might take you seriously. Until then...just read the checklist when it's called for.

I am sure you are a much better pilot than the rest of us lowely FO's out there...

FR8Hauler 07-22-2006 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
'slow Yea, I get it alright!




The point is, do you get it! In the real world, not the sim world, the plane wouldn't have moved, because the other guy was enough of an ass that he and I wouldn't haven't stayed together as a "crew". You can paint a turd all you want, but in the end its still a turd. Some things/people can't be managed. But maybe you're in the same "Skygod" world he still lives in and you wouldn't/couldn't understand "crew" concept.

Brushless Supreme with underbody wash and wheel cleaner, please!


Yes, this 2dotslow clown runs a carwash or something does he not?


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