Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

This sit down and shut up attitude is getting old.

Originally Posted by say that again

Who is saying that? I fail to see any evidence of that kind of attitude on this thread.

Originally Posted by 757upspilot

Possibly because the union wants to run the process instead of allowing him to run it. You are familiar with this approach possibly.

Originally Posted by say that again

Who is saying that? I fail to see any evidence of that kind of attitude on this thread.

Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

Only a few people have told me to "keep your mouth shut". Couple of threats. Not here, on the B&G.

Originally Posted by say that again

Who is saying that? I fail to see any evidence of that kind of attitude on this thread.

Originally Posted by ThreeSides

I'll check back after all the subcontractors fly peak with no IPA recalls for the answer.

Originally Posted by b2pilot186

1. UPS itself said the OT/JA ban was worth 200 positions.
I saw this statement by Jim M, and I always pay close attention to what he says. However, UPS would never reduce the manning so that they were dependent on OT/JA to make service. Just the ability to decline OT/JA is enough to save the extra 200 positions. A ban does not need to be actually implemented.
2. MEF flying this past quarter was double from last year in the same time frame even with less sorties flown...Easy to look up now with the MEF tracker.
Did the senior UPS leadership (those who make the furlough decisions) not anticipate this, and do they consider it a bad thing?
3. Managers were pulled out of the GOC to be available to fly MEF...managers have lost planned vacations and have broken into crewmember hotel rooms in desperation to find bodies to fly.
I believe this kind of chatter on the forums is highly over-stated. I wish I had the data on individual FQS schedules to back up my intuition. As a former military pilot, one who had numerous squadron duties in operations, maintenance, and administration over the years, I recall how getting on the flight schedule was a good thing and got us out of the office.
4. SWA and Fedex folks look with envy at the solidarity we are displaying as a group for our furloughees. When they come back to the line, they'll be an adamant and loyal force for our union since most of us held the line.
Solidarity is a good thing, as long as we are working smart, not emotionally.
I bet others can come up with more reasons why it's effective. The goal is not to shut down the company, but to get the furloughees back sooner rather than later. Just wait until peak, when every night is crisis management...then you'll see just how effective this OT/JA ban will be. It won't shut'em down, but the pain will be palpable.
This will be my 20th peak, and perhaps I am not representative of the norm, but I haven't found peak schedules to be any worse than usual. Often they have been a breeze. I think that is not the case for the people who actually have to do the planning and those who get their hands on the packages.
B2P

Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

I am not in a position to "run it". I can influence it though. That unfortunately is what might happen.

Originally Posted by Night_Hawk

The contract does not prevent the use of subcontractors w/ pilots on furlough.

So, I would expect this to occur.