Roberto

It seems to me that the total 4a2b savings to FDX would be a greater amount than the UPS savings resulting from the furlough of 109 FO's... Any idea?

aflouisville

Af,
I will give you credit for your predictions and obviously you have friends in high places. Couple of questions for you since your in the know, what do you think this will cost UPS in the long run? I mean in terms of services failures, lost customers due to lack of those failures, lack of flexibility to shippers, failure to capitalize on growing market share, general mistrust and contempt from their employees, no more growing the business opportunities from the pilot group and the list goes on .... Don't they care about any of this or their employees? Thanks for your time

They are very concerned about service failures, not only on the air side, but all across the company. That being said, they really believe they can cover the system on the air side during peak. You are right: the furlough will leave a bad taste for a long time, no matter when it is over.

AF

Shaggy1970

So they know they screwed up but yet they still won't admit their mistake and keep burying a wedge between them and their employees. Just wondering what school of business this comes from? Lets say the average furloughee costs the company 200K a year that's almost 22 Million a year, times three years that 66 million! The MOU generated 109 million and people were a lot more happy than they are now! Wouldn't you agree that this thing has been completely mis-handled by the inept management team running this company. How much money will this blunder end up costing this company over the next 20 years that I am here for? I would venture and say billions! I hate to see the place I work for go down the tubes but it seems like nothing is stopping that now.

iarapilot

Nope. No idea.

Night_Hawk

It is not that they screwed up; they took a gamble that the IPS would not hold the line on the open time/ JA situation. They just rolled snake eyes and are screwed now. I would say the company probably would be running fine if people were still flying like a rueshbag.

The continuation of the BS is what is amazing. And, of course, it is aggravating that no one will bear any responsibility for this screw up.

UPSFO4LIFE

Looks like it will be fixed!

aseweepay

Looks like it's a good start, but until our 109 Brothers and Sisters on the street are back, it's not fixed....

UPSFO4LIFE

That part is not fixed but if you look at the quote, I was responding to the 71 pilots in the wrong spot. That part will be fixed!

Tigerpilot1995

Time to "Broom a Davis"

aseweepay

Couldn't have said it better myself....awesome and so right.....all we need now is a convertible.....

And UPSFO, I probably shouldn't have quoted you since I knew what you meant and was trying to make a blanket statement about the situation, not about your quote...my mistake for quoting you...we both want the same thing/outcome....