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Old 02-18-2011, 10:14 PM   #1  
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I am currently flying in Vietnam for Air Mekong, which is a part of SkyWest Airlines in St. George Utah. I am on a 13-month contract. Thinking about applying to FedEx and just wondering about the 5 year continuous in U.S. rule.

Will this be exempted if the country you're living/working in has full diplomatic relations with America?
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:46 AM   #2  
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From the pilot credentials website:

Candidates for jobs involving handling or access to U.S. mail cannot be considered for employment if they have resided outside the U.S., Guam or Puerto Rico for more than (6) six months during the last (5) years prior to today's date, other than the following verifiable exceptions: active duty in the U.S. Uniformed Service; trailing spouse or dependent of someone working for the U.S. government (military or civilian); missionary; student attending school in a foreign country; Peace Corps participant; employee of a U.S. based employer/company or other extraordinary circumstances.

I think you're OK because you're an "employee of a U.S. based employer." You might want to clarify and for certain have written documentation as you've stated that you're there in V. on a contract with a US based company. Diplomatic relations have nothing to do with FedEx requirements and the requirements set upon FedEx from the US gubmint because we carry US mail.
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:41 AM   #3  
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Thank you Mr. Magenta Line.

Hope your company will recognize my important experience operating in challenging conditions day in/day out when they review my application.

Time for a beer33 and a massage.

CHARLIE THREE OCLOCK!
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Hope your company will recognize my important experience operating in challenging conditions day in/day out when they review my application.
Ha, says a ACMI driver.
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Do you know the FARs?
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:23 AM   #6  
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I can't wait til FedEx gets sued for discriminating against pilots who live overseas. that should open up the flood gates for expats to come home!

Call it....Operation Expat Baby Lift, if you will.

Heck, UPS carries mail from Shanghai and they don't require their pilots to have lived in China 5 consecutive years!

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I can't wait til FedEx gets sued for discriminating against pilots who live overseas. that should open up the flood gates for expats to come home!

Call it....Operation Expat Baby Lift, if you will.

Heck, UPS carries mail from Shanghai and they don't require their pilots to have lived in China 5 consecutive years!

Totarry Lidicurous!!

This should help your app????!!!
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To be fair, he does have important experience operating in challenging conditions day in/day out in a country with full diplomatic relations with America.
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To FedEx pilots only:

I am currently flying in Vietnam for Air Mekong, which is a part of SkyWest Airlines in St. George Utah. I am on a 13-month contract. Thinking about applying to FedEx and just wondering about the 5 year continuous in U.S. rule.

Will this be exempted if the country you're living/working in has full diplomatic relations with America?
You've got some interesting ideas of what is due you and what isn't. I for one agree with you that an employer has no right to discriminate, in any manner at all, against a perspective employee. As an example, FedEx requires pilots to have 1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command. I say that FedEx should be made to hire pilots with the bare minimums, otherwise it's discrimination, isn't it? As well, they say that the candidate "Must pass FAA mandated drug screen". Have you ever heard of anything more discriminatory in your life! They should be forced to hire some druggies, just so that group of pilots can feel like they're getting a fair shake.

On the FedEx website, they say "This position requires clearance from United States Postal Service including a FBI fingerprint check." How totally unfair is that? Shouldn't they just be made to accept a potential applicants written and verbal statements as fact. I mean come on already.

You get my drift? Anyway, the company has other rules and requirements that they have posted, for two reasons: first is they don't want a glut of applications from guys whom they deem to be unqualified; and secondly, they don't want to have to spend the money, investigating these guys, because it's expensive. If you have lived outside the USA for over the specified period of time, it becomes exceedingly expensive to do an FBI background check. So I ask you, what skills do you have that would make you more of an asset to FedEx, than would a guy who has lived in Cleveland for the past 5 years?

As for flying for Air Mekong, which appears to be only partly owned by Sky West, about 30% ownership, from what I can tell, and this ownership took place only a few months ago, the question begs, were you employed there prior to this partial purchase, and if so, has it been 6 months or more?

I think you have a very good law suit here, but remember that the application window closes around the end of March. Hey, wait a minute.... isn't that discriminatory too? How can that be allowed. The application window should never be closed, because someone, somewhere, at some time, might want to apply.

And just as an aside, if you think flying in Vietnam is difficult, you should try a weekend layover in Newark.

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To be fair, he does have important experience operating in challenging conditions day in/day out in a country with full diplomatic relations with America.
How about operating in countries that DON'T have good diplomatic relationships with the US, what is that worth? And laying over in said countries!
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