UPS - Way to go NEW FQS's
03-02-2011, 06:24 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by To Stay or Go
No, the new low would be anyone who criticizes someone for taking a job when unemployed. I just hope they sign their cards.
03-02-2011, 06:38 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
I guess you would find it acceptable to cross a picket line too? After all, you are not working at the time. I gotta agree with brownie (for once...LOL).
I would never advocate crossing a picket line, no matter how bad things are. I would certainly entertain accepting a job that helped feed my family if I were furloughed (that didn't make me a scab).
I think if the circumstance were different and you faced the decision between a multi-year lay off and working, you might think otherwise. Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
03-02-2011, 06:57 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
Come on, there is a difference between crossing a picket line and accepting a job as management. I think you can see this.
I would never advocate crossing a picket line, no matter how bad things are. I would certainly entertain accepting a job that helped feed my family if I were furloughed (that didn't make me a scab).
I think if the circumstance were different and you faced the decision between a multi-year lay off and working, you might think otherwise. Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
I would never advocate crossing a picket line, no matter how bad things are. I would certainly entertain accepting a job that helped feed my family if I were furloughed (that didn't make me a scab).
I think if the circumstance were different and you faced the decision between a multi-year lay off and working, you might think otherwise. Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
03-02-2011, 06:59 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
Come on, there is a difference between crossing a picket line and accepting a job as management. I think you can see this.
I would never advocate crossing a picket line, no matter how bad things are. I would certainly entertain accepting a job that helped feed my family if I were furloughed (that didn't make me a scab).
I think if the circumstance were different and you faced the decision between a multi-year lay off and working, you might think otherwise. Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
I would never advocate crossing a picket line, no matter how bad things are. I would certainly entertain accepting a job that helped feed my family if I were furloughed (that didn't make me a scab).
I think if the circumstance were different and you faced the decision between a multi-year lay off and working, you might think otherwise. Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
03-02-2011, 07:16 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
There is a HUGE difference although the poster was saying that if you need a job he can understand someone taking it. I was not truly comparing it to being a scab. I was just saying that the "I needed a job" excuse doesn't fly with me to go into management at UPS. I could tell you right now I would NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER go into management at UPS with the way things are now (no union protection, being the co. biatch forever). I honestly would rather sell/lose my house and work at McDonald's.
Whether you want the job or not is irrelevant. I will never take the side of a scab, no matter his circumstance. The job market is awful. McDonalds may be a real choice for some of these guys. These guys have families too and they are doing what they need to do to keep a roof over their head.
03-02-2011, 07:17 AM
#26
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[QUOTE=Freightpuppy;956764]There is a HUGE difference although the poster was saying that if you need a job he can understand someone taking it. I was not truly comparing it to being a scab. I was just saying that the "I needed a job" excuse doesn't fly with me to go into management at UPS. I could tell you right now I would NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER go into management at UPS with the way things are now (no union protection, being the co. biatch forever). I honestly would rather sell/lose my house and work at McDonald's.[/QUOTE
Freightpuppy
I thought you worked as an RN on the side..certainly much better than working a McDonalds...
Freightpuppy
I thought you worked as an RN on the side..certainly much better than working a McDonalds...
03-02-2011, 07:34 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
Working as a management pilot doesn't make him/her a scab.
Not at all. Just a potential scab. Or face unemployment again if the IPA ever establishes a picket line.
At least it makes them easier to spot ... Unlike the ones on the seniority list that might decide to cross someday.
03-02-2011, 07:51 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
That is easy for you to say. I'd bet you rethink this if your family was without a paycheck for years (who knows how long it will be). There is nothing wrong about needing a job and applying for a management position. He/she is not a scab. How about this, why don't you sell your house and give your salary to this guy?
Whether you want the job or not is irrelevant. I will never take the side of a scab, no matter his circumstance. The job market is awful. McDonalds may be a real choice for some of these guys. These guys have families too and they are doing what they need to do to keep a roof over their head.
Whether you want the job or not is irrelevant. I will never take the side of a scab, no matter his circumstance. The job market is awful. McDonalds may be a real choice for some of these guys. These guys have families too and they are doing what they need to do to keep a roof over their head.
That's cool. They could do what they want. I just said that the "I need a job" is a lame excuse for going into management at UPS. It's the same as saying you crossed the picket line because "I needed a job". It's a lame excuse! We can just agree to disagree.
03-02-2011, 07:52 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by petras52
Freightpuppy
I thought you worked as an RN on the side..certainly much better than working a McDonalds...
I thought you worked as an RN on the side..certainly much better than working a McDonalds...
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