How thoughtless of them. Can't believe they sent an e-mail to YOUR inbox and it wasn't even about you or something to help you. Best thing to do was to flush it. Junk mail.

 

Hey ANGFDX,

If you want confirmation that Pilot B was a Dxxxxx. rest easy because B is. No downside except jealousy. Take away someone's good deal or give me a piece of it and I'll feel better. Is B from Wisconsin?

 

My personal opinion is that your seniority allows you the opportunity to bid for the seat in the first place, and then we train in seniority order, and that is it.

However, if somebody junior to you has the wherewithal to solicit and receive a trade for an earlier date then it should be a slam dunk to allow the trade. It is no skin off your nose and two people's quality of life has just been given a boost. Are we so petty as to prevent others from benefiting just because we don't get a cut of it? Really?

A swap is a no brainer win win in my opinion. Absolutely you may swap. Maybe some day I will need a swap in order to make a kid's wedding, a wife's birthday, a family reunion, who knows. Its the only way we have to control our destiny once we hit the training letter. Until we change the CBA to bid for training slots, all swaps are ok by me.

The only possible downside I have ever seen with a swap was a guy who was worried about the activation of a junior pilot that was going to trigger his passover pay who wanted to swap for a later date. The guy who objected was a flex at the end of the letter waiting for that guy to activate so his passover would start. There were others who would also trigger it in the same slot, but he was still reluctant. Eventually he agreed to the swap.

Had that been the only guy on the training letter who would trigger the passover pay it might have been a different story, that would have been a tough one and I doubt the guy would have changed his mind.

It wasn't me, I would have given the ok either way, that is just the kind of guy I am.

 

I appreciate the educational AND entertaining thoughts on the process.
Being Pilot C, I have no takers on the exchange offer, but should one appear I want to be as educated as possible on the ramifications.

Regardless of exchanges, I'm just happy to BE on the training letter...

Cheers,
Pilot C

 

Congratulations on the training slot...and even more for being named
MS. ANG

Is there a swimsuit competition in that pageant?

 

So...It would have been ok for you to trade for an earlier training date and jump ahead of those senior to you? But, not for someone junior to you to do it? That's pathetic!! But not surprising, for our group.

 

We bid for recurrent training dates and we should bid for ITU as well. Having said that, we should all help guys needing a swap as life never goes as planned...

 

WOW.....I am sure B and C told everyone (who you are) "I mean about your great offer"

 

If I approve the swap, I don't get passover.
If I disapprove the swap, I don't get passover.
So, why not help out and approve it?

Staffing told me years ago that the reason for the idiotic process is they've had a few people cry about someone hired after them making Captain a few months before them.

I think we should have some way to bid for training slots or have more frequent bids; I would have upgraded a lot sooner if I could have a little say as to when I went to training.

 

Marky Mark, if you had done that to me, we'd have had a little sit-down with pro stands.