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Old 05-20-2011, 05:41 PM
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end up 45 years old at the bottom of a seniority list somewhere.

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Old 05-20-2011, 06:51 PM
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Talking little bit of thread-jack,,

wanted to ask the brown boyz about layin over in sdf this weekend. Never been to louisville before. Usually like to go shoot my ffdo piece at a local range, anything close to the motel "brown",?? tanks in advance,, back to normal programming.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:54 PM
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Anyone notice how much Open Time is available on the FO side across all domiciles? I believe it will be interesting how it gets filled. Of course there are a few out there "helping out".

I was hoping the recalls would start by June-August timeline, but as those dates rapidly approach, I see no indication of UPS blinking first!
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:57 PM
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wanted to ask the brown boyz about layin over in sdf this weekend. Never been to louisville before. Usually like to go shoot my ffdo piece at a local range, anything close to the motel "brown",?? tanks in advance,, back to normal programming.
You don't need a range in Louisville, just find some back road somewhere. As far as the crew hotel (Holiday Inn).....stay away from that place. The water is TERRIBLE!!
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Old 05-21-2011, 01:26 AM
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wanted to ask the brown boyz about layin over in sdf this weekend. Never been to louisville before. Usually like to go shoot my ffdo piece at a local range, anything close to the motel "brown",?? tanks in advance,, back to normal programming.
If you are talking about the Brown hotel, it's about 4 stars above our crew hotel, so we would not know what is around it to do. UPS would never allow us to stay in a hotel as nice as the Brown anywhere domestically.
I'm not an SDF guy, but I think the Brown hotel is located downtown.
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Old 05-21-2011, 02:23 AM
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My only complaint at UPS is the furlough. Yes, I would categorize it as a great job. I've gotten some raw deals from scheduling, but I've had 10x more great breaks such as displacements. I'm way ahead in the end.

My requirements for it being a great job? Fantastic pay, excellent training, superb mx and airplanes, tons of time off, and a great safety culture. The company has responded to the Flt 6 tragedy in an admirable way. What else is there for them to do?

Don't be miserable at UPS. Life is way too short. Obviously perspectives determine your opinion. I'm just saying from my perspective as a junior FO, life is great in SDF. I'm near the bottom on my seat/fleet and I can't touch reserve, which tells me that those more senior are on to something.

If this isn't a "great" job I can only imagine what one must be like. (And no, I'm not mgt. Just stating my opinion and that of most of those with whom I fly.)

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Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:43 AM
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If you are talking about the Brown hotel, it's about 4 stars above our crew hotel, so we would not know what is around it to do. UPS would never allow us to stay in a hotel as nice as the Brown anywhere domestically.
I'm not an SDF guy, but I think the Brown hotel is located downtown.
The Brown is located downtown. UPS crews used to stay in the Brown.
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:52 AM
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You are correct except if you are at UPS it is not now and will never be the best. The only thing good about it is the pay and the crews we work with. UPS airlines has had a 23 year history of sucking it is not going to change.
I agree but in 2004-2007 when we were hiring, we didn't have a shortage of applications and I'm sure a lot of guys were thinking this was their #1 choice. That's all I'm sayin'

Every few years it's the flavor of the week. Now it's FedEx. People are so shortsighted it's unbelievable. What will the flavor of the week be in 5 years?
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My only complaint at UPS is the furlough. Yes, I would categorize it as a great job. I've gotten some raw deals from scheduling, but I've had 10x more great breaks such as displacements. I'm way ahead in the end.

My requirements for it being a great job? Fantastic pay, excellent training, superb mx and airplanes, tons of time off, and a great safety culture. The company has responded to the Flt 6 tragedy in an admirable way. What else is there for them to do?

Don't be miserable at UPS. Life is way too short. Obviously perspectives determine your opinion. I'm just saying from my perspective as a junior FO, life is great in SDF. I'm near the bottom on my seat/fleet and I can't touch reserve, which tells me that those more senior are on to something.

If this isn't a "great" job I can only imagine what one must be like. (And no, I'm not mgt. Just stating my opinion and that of most of those with whom I fly.)

Ready for the arrows.
I have to agree with you here Lil J. Before Shaggy quotes me as saying "great" job, I will say I don't think it's "great" just due to the fact of the horrible mgmt vs. employee relations. I would love to have unicorns and lollipops shoved up my butt all day long like at SWA apparently, but I accept that it is not this way here and live my life enjoying my family since life can end unexpectedly (I lost my mom in 2009 at 56 years old). Sorry but I don't want to die full of hatred and of a heart attack from something I cannot control. Anyone get my drift?
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