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Old 06-11-2011, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty View Post
The problem is, they didn't move there. That's the problem. I think.

They didnt move their family there. Although a pilot might :live: in HKG, his family needs to be with him, according to the rules,, extenuating circumstances permitted I am sure.
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:52 PM
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In my dealings with the company ACPs they have bent over backwards to help out in situations at home. A little honesty and a phone call goes a long way. I've been let off trips due to inbound hurricanes, family emergencies etc... Now, for the hypothetical case of the single guy commuting back for a slice, the company needs to keep their nose out of his business. There are too many situations to paint with such a wide brush stroke. However we all know we have our "gamers" out there.
I thought that was why you WENT to HKG!
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:07 PM
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Thanks, it really does help. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that it will be a money loser for us. I canl live with that. Just trying to nail down how much of a money loser it will be!
Are you out of your mind?
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:24 PM
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i thought that was why you went to hkg!
roflmao.....:d:d:d
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Old 06-12-2011, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FR8Hauler View Post
Are you out of your mind?
I was wondering the same thing. This is essentially paying to go and work for the company in an expensive, overseas location so they can make even more money off your services. It is this mindset that allows our FDA TA's and LOA's to be so insufficient time after time.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FR8Hauler View Post
Are you out of your mind?
Is your definition of sanity making every life decision based on the financial bottom line?

If so, would you ever let your spouse quit a lucrative career???
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog View Post
I was wondering the same thing. This is essentially paying to go and work for the company in an expensive, overseas location so they can make even more money off your services. It is this mindset that allows our FDA TA's and LOA's to be so insufficient time after time.

Really? Because I voted against the FDA LOA. Don't presume to understand my mindset.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:58 PM
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Is your definition of sanity making every life decision based on the financial bottom line?

If so, would you ever let your spouse quit a lucrative career???
No, but I don't go to work planning to lose money either. It just seems a little crazy (to me) that someone would have that mindset while working for the best company in the world. A better idea, would be a LOA that pays tuition in full...Like every other company does that sends employees abroad.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:48 PM
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No, but I don't go to work planning to lose money either. It just seems a little crazy (to me) that someone would have that mindset while working for the best company in the world. A better idea, would be a LOA that pays tuition in full...Like every other company does that sends employees abroad.
I couldn't agree more. I wish we had a better LOA, but we don't. I wish they would pay for an entire year of school, not 2 months. I wish they would pay for us to ship more than the clothes on our backs (1,000 lbs really??) Unfortunately this is what we negotiated.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:50 PM
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Really? Because I voted against the FDA LOA. Don't presume to understand my mindset.
Congrats on your FDA LOA no vote. The vote that counts is the one you make with your feet in this case. Taking a deal overseas that you admit will cost you money, while also knowing the company will make more money knowing pilots like you will take a lowball offer just to live in Europe, is exactly the mindset that allows them to keep future offers low. If your willing to take a pay loss just to live overseas, for all I know you voted against the LOA because you wanted it to go even more junior so you could be assured of holding it at a higher seniority. Remember, DW told us all not to bid a plane without a pay rate and work rules, just before he did it himself, so it wouldn't be the first time. Anyway, I think your mindset is pretty easy to read here, but your right, I will never understand it. Good luck in CGN..
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