ATI and DB Schenker announcement
08-03-2011, 03:35 PM
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Preferred carrier DHL Aviation??? (A lot of these new runs are already served by an ABX 762. Enough freight for a 767 and a DC-8?)
DHL Prepares with more North American Domestic Capacity as of First Week of September
Issue 42, July 22, 2011
You may have already heard the news regarding DB Schenker announcing the strategic realignment of their North American domestic operating model. They will transition from operating their own dedicated air fleet to a non-fixed asset model.
In response to this announcement our Domestic Freight Services group is in contact with our various airline and ground providers to make sure we are in position to protect the best interest of our current customers as well as those who may have a renewed interest in working with DHL Global Forwarding as a result of this recent announcement.
During initial conversations with our preferred carrier DHL Aviation, they plan to increase our system capacity on September 6, 2011 to offset the planned departure of DB Schenker network of aircraft on September 2, 2011.
DHL Aviation, initially will be adding seven additional aircraft to their fleet (four DC8's and three 727's, which will provide capacity of +315,000 pounds). DHL Global Forwarding is one of DHL Aviation's top customers and we will continue to be treated as such moving forward by committing to further supporting the needs of DHL Global Forwarding's Domestic customers who require Next Day and Second Day freighter lift.
The planned routes are as follows:
SEA/SFO/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
LAX/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
IAH/DFW/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
MIA/ATL/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
STL/MCI/CVG (Round Trip) 727
BDL/ROC/CVG (Round Trip) 727
HRL/LRD/CVG (Round Trip) 727
As the world's leader of airfreight services, DHL Global Forwarding has developed alliances with every major cargo and commercial airline in the U.S. and we commit to continue to deliver industry-leading customer service excellence.
If you require additional information on the steps the Domestic Freight Services team is taking to support your needs, please feel free to reach out to your respective Area Domestic Managers or Business Development Managers at 1-866-849-5100 (this is the same number on our new domestic brochure) who would be glad to assist you.
Sincerely,
Brian Lindholm
CEO, North America
Kevin Bock
SVP, Domestic Freight Services
DHL Prepares with more North American Domestic Capacity as of First Week of September
Issue 42, July 22, 2011
You may have already heard the news regarding DB Schenker announcing the strategic realignment of their North American domestic operating model. They will transition from operating their own dedicated air fleet to a non-fixed asset model.
In response to this announcement our Domestic Freight Services group is in contact with our various airline and ground providers to make sure we are in position to protect the best interest of our current customers as well as those who may have a renewed interest in working with DHL Global Forwarding as a result of this recent announcement.
During initial conversations with our preferred carrier DHL Aviation, they plan to increase our system capacity on September 6, 2011 to offset the planned departure of DB Schenker network of aircraft on September 2, 2011.
DHL Aviation, initially will be adding seven additional aircraft to their fleet (four DC8's and three 727's, which will provide capacity of +315,000 pounds). DHL Global Forwarding is one of DHL Aviation's top customers and we will continue to be treated as such moving forward by committing to further supporting the needs of DHL Global Forwarding's Domestic customers who require Next Day and Second Day freighter lift.
The planned routes are as follows:
SEA/SFO/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
LAX/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
IAH/DFW/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
MIA/ATL/CVG (Round Trip) DC8
STL/MCI/CVG (Round Trip) 727
BDL/ROC/CVG (Round Trip) 727
HRL/LRD/CVG (Round Trip) 727
As the world's leader of airfreight services, DHL Global Forwarding has developed alliances with every major cargo and commercial airline in the U.S. and we commit to continue to deliver industry-leading customer service excellence.
If you require additional information on the steps the Domestic Freight Services team is taking to support your needs, please feel free to reach out to your respective Area Domestic Managers or Business Development Managers at 1-866-849-5100 (this is the same number on our new domestic brochure) who would be glad to assist you.
Sincerely,
Brian Lindholm
CEO, North America
Kevin Bock
SVP, Domestic Freight Services
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08-04-2011, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Likeabat
Airbus,
Where did this article come from? Who is DHL Aviation?
Where did this article come from? Who is DHL Aviation?
DHL is the German Post office. Story is true ATI made the announcement over the weekend.
08-04-2011, 06:05 AM
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I'm somewhat familiar with DHL as I flew for them for 12 years. (DHL Airways/Astar) Just not sure who the entity/airline "DHL Aviation" is as referenced in this article. When the article says "our preferred carrier, DHL Aviation" it sounds like it is saying there is an airline with such a name, which is not the case. Since DHL spun off my former carrier, they no longer own a US airline (edit: ok, I guess they still own a piece of Atlas) Just a handful of contractors flying for DHL. I just thought the article seemed to be written oddly when it mentions a "carrier" named DHL Aviation adding aircraft to "their fleet". Obviously, any extra flying will just be subbed out to one of their sub-contractors. Just thought the wording of the article was strange.
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08-04-2011, 06:55 AM
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DHL Aviation is a division of DHL Express responsible for providing air transport capacity. It is not a single airline but refers to several airlines owned, co-owned or chartered by DHL Express.
Deutsche Post owns four main airlines, which provide services by region:
European Air Transport Leipzig is responsible for the major part of the European network and for longhaul services to the Middle East and Africa. From its hub at the Leipzig/Halle Airport it will operate a fleet of 11 Boeing 757 Freighters and 13 Airbus A300 Freighters (registered with Air Contractors).
DHL Air UK is based at East Midlands Airport, was purchased by DHL in 1989, and has since 2000 been operating a fleet of 22 Boeing 757-200SF freighters on intra-European services. Since 2009, DHL Air UK has been operating a fleet of three new-built Boeing 767-300ERF Freighters, primarily on trans-atlantic routes. The airline has an order for a further three Boeing 767-300ERF aircraft, to be delivered in 2010 and 2011.
DHL Aero Expreso is the subsidiary in Central and South America, operating a fleet of Boeing 727-200 Freighters in Central- and South America, as well as serving destinations in the Caribbean and Florida.
SNAS/DHL handles Middle East destinations, operating a fleet of Boeing 727-200 freighters. The fleet is deployed throughout the Middle East and in Africa.
It also owns the following smaller airlines:
DHL de Guatemala, Guatemala City.
Aero Express Del Ecuador, Guayaquil, Ecuador.
Deutsche Post also has stakes in the following airlines or contracts with, some of which also operate under the DHL brand or livery:
AeroLogic, Leipzig, Germany (50%).
Air Hong Kong, Hong Kong (40%).
ABX Air, Inc. Wilmington, OH, USA (0%, Contract).
Astar Air Cargo, Miami, FL, USA (0%, Contract).
Blue Dart Aviation, Chennai, India (32%).
Polar Air Cargo, Purchase, NY, USA (49%).
Solenta Aviation, Johannesburg, South Africa (unknown).
Tasman Cargo Airlines, Sydney, Australia (49%).
Deutsche Post owns four main airlines, which provide services by region:
European Air Transport Leipzig is responsible for the major part of the European network and for longhaul services to the Middle East and Africa. From its hub at the Leipzig/Halle Airport it will operate a fleet of 11 Boeing 757 Freighters and 13 Airbus A300 Freighters (registered with Air Contractors).
DHL Air UK is based at East Midlands Airport, was purchased by DHL in 1989, and has since 2000 been operating a fleet of 22 Boeing 757-200SF freighters on intra-European services. Since 2009, DHL Air UK has been operating a fleet of three new-built Boeing 767-300ERF Freighters, primarily on trans-atlantic routes. The airline has an order for a further three Boeing 767-300ERF aircraft, to be delivered in 2010 and 2011.
DHL Aero Expreso is the subsidiary in Central and South America, operating a fleet of Boeing 727-200 Freighters in Central- and South America, as well as serving destinations in the Caribbean and Florida.
SNAS/DHL handles Middle East destinations, operating a fleet of Boeing 727-200 freighters. The fleet is deployed throughout the Middle East and in Africa.
It also owns the following smaller airlines:
DHL de Guatemala, Guatemala City.
Aero Express Del Ecuador, Guayaquil, Ecuador.
Deutsche Post also has stakes in the following airlines or contracts with, some of which also operate under the DHL brand or livery:
AeroLogic, Leipzig, Germany (50%).
Air Hong Kong, Hong Kong (40%).
ABX Air, Inc. Wilmington, OH, USA (0%, Contract).
Astar Air Cargo, Miami, FL, USA (0%, Contract).
Blue Dart Aviation, Chennai, India (32%).
Polar Air Cargo, Purchase, NY, USA (49%).
Solenta Aviation, Johannesburg, South Africa (unknown).
Tasman Cargo Airlines, Sydney, Australia (49%).
08-04-2011, 07:16 AM
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I'm familiar with all of that - most/all of those contracts and ownership stakes existed when I was employed there - although the division named "DHL Aviation" is a relatively new thing Deutsche Post has dreamed up in the last few years.
I just think it is interesting how the article seemed to sound like "DHL Aviation" is an airline in and of itself.
Best of luck to my former co-horts that are now at ATI.
I just think it is interesting how the article seemed to sound like "DHL Aviation" is an airline in and of itself.
Best of luck to my former co-horts that are now at ATI.
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08-04-2011, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CzechAirman
Think of "DHL Aviation" as a brand name for all the owned and contracted lift providers for DHL around the world.
Unfortunately, the future of aviation in the US as far as the DHL network is concerned will now always be pitting various sub-contractors against one another, etc. and will probably prove to cause plenty of angst for the pilots involved just like with regional carriers. I'm thankful to have moved on. Again, best of luck for those involved.
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08-04-2011, 08:39 AM
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From ATSG 2nd quarter press release:
DB Schenker Relationship
"DB Schenker recently announced plans to adopt a new business model on September 1, 2011, at which time it would cease air cargo operations at its air hub in Toledo, Ohio, and instead conduct air operations from the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky airport, the location of DHL's U.S. air network hub. DB Schenker has notified ATSG that the eight DC-8 and eight Boeing 727 freighters currently operated by ATSG's airline subsidiaries in its North American network will be reduced to four DC-8 and three Boeing 727 freighters through the end of 2011, after which DB Schenker expects to outsource its air cargo operations to DHL. DHL has informed the Company that it anticipates negotiating terms during the fourth quarter of 2011 for the use of all or some of those seven aircraft beginning in 2012. ATSG said it will explore options for redeployment or sale of the surplus aircraft and will conduct an impairment analysis on ATSG's aircraft fleets, intangible assets and recorded goodwill balances during the third quarter of 2011.
Hete added that, “While we would have preferred that DB Schenker partner with us to upgrade its dedicated air network, we are uniquely positioned, as the main provider of aircraft in DHL's U.S. network, to support both major customers by supplying the incremental lift required to meet the air-cargo needs of DB Schenker's customers via the DHL air network. Our own core business strategy remains strongly focused on leveraging our leading scale, scope and experience as a lessor and operator of highly flexible and efficient mid-size freighters, and in particular the Boeing 767, the preferred mid-size wide-body platform for air cargo networks around the world. While we expect to continue to operate a lesser number of DC-8 and Boeing 727 aircraft in 2012 and beyond, those aging aircraft were not considered part of the growth platform for our business. The eventual removal of those Schenker-dedicated aircraft is projected to eliminate $10-15 million in annual cash expenditures for capital maintenance, and will reduce related support costs."
“We are well positioned to achieve significant cash-flow gains this year from the deployment of our remaining in-process 767s, and for even greater results in 2012 as we continue to reinvest our cash flow to selectively acquire, convert, and deploy more modern aircraft with superior capital return profiles, along with our expanding range of maintenance, operating, and network support services.”
In summary, what I understand is that only 4 DC-8s will now be sidelined. The remaining 4 will operate for DB Schenker through DHL out of CVG. I suppose this agreement stands a chance at dissolving next year since DHL plans to renegotiate during the 4th quarter of 2011. I'm not sure DHL is in love with either the DC-8 or 727.
Sounds like ATI will balance on a razors edge with the timing of their recalls between surplus DC-8s and taking deliveries of new 767 freighters.
How many furloughs are planned at Capital?
DB Schenker Relationship
"DB Schenker recently announced plans to adopt a new business model on September 1, 2011, at which time it would cease air cargo operations at its air hub in Toledo, Ohio, and instead conduct air operations from the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky airport, the location of DHL's U.S. air network hub. DB Schenker has notified ATSG that the eight DC-8 and eight Boeing 727 freighters currently operated by ATSG's airline subsidiaries in its North American network will be reduced to four DC-8 and three Boeing 727 freighters through the end of 2011, after which DB Schenker expects to outsource its air cargo operations to DHL. DHL has informed the Company that it anticipates negotiating terms during the fourth quarter of 2011 for the use of all or some of those seven aircraft beginning in 2012. ATSG said it will explore options for redeployment or sale of the surplus aircraft and will conduct an impairment analysis on ATSG's aircraft fleets, intangible assets and recorded goodwill balances during the third quarter of 2011.
Hete added that, “While we would have preferred that DB Schenker partner with us to upgrade its dedicated air network, we are uniquely positioned, as the main provider of aircraft in DHL's U.S. network, to support both major customers by supplying the incremental lift required to meet the air-cargo needs of DB Schenker's customers via the DHL air network. Our own core business strategy remains strongly focused on leveraging our leading scale, scope and experience as a lessor and operator of highly flexible and efficient mid-size freighters, and in particular the Boeing 767, the preferred mid-size wide-body platform for air cargo networks around the world. While we expect to continue to operate a lesser number of DC-8 and Boeing 727 aircraft in 2012 and beyond, those aging aircraft were not considered part of the growth platform for our business. The eventual removal of those Schenker-dedicated aircraft is projected to eliminate $10-15 million in annual cash expenditures for capital maintenance, and will reduce related support costs."
“We are well positioned to achieve significant cash-flow gains this year from the deployment of our remaining in-process 767s, and for even greater results in 2012 as we continue to reinvest our cash flow to selectively acquire, convert, and deploy more modern aircraft with superior capital return profiles, along with our expanding range of maintenance, operating, and network support services.”
In summary, what I understand is that only 4 DC-8s will now be sidelined. The remaining 4 will operate for DB Schenker through DHL out of CVG. I suppose this agreement stands a chance at dissolving next year since DHL plans to renegotiate during the 4th quarter of 2011. I'm not sure DHL is in love with either the DC-8 or 727.
Sounds like ATI will balance on a razors edge with the timing of their recalls between surplus DC-8s and taking deliveries of new 767 freighters.
How many furloughs are planned at Capital?
08-04-2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedAJob
Sounds like ATI will balance on a razors edge with the timing of their recalls between surplus DC-8s and taking deliveries of new 767 freighters.
Also, whats the latest on N556CM? It has been in VQQ since early May and is the San Juan 767 passenger flights doing any good?
Anyone think ATI/CCI could make a run at it, albeit in a limited capacity, on their own out of TOL? BAX still has to pay for the facilities till like 2013 and the Toledo Port Authority is going to be shelling out major incentives to get someone in there ASAP.
