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Old 08-03-2011, 06:48 AM
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I have a trip that DHs for 3.5 hours turns in 1.5 and then operates live for 2 hours back to Memphis same duty period. Shouldnt that be first class. I think its on Mesa or Mesaba so probably not First class anyway.
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Nope, DH to a live leg has to exceed 8 BH or duty of 11:30 for FC

See 8.A.4.b
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I have a trip that DHs for 3.5 hours turns in 1.5 and then operates live for 2 hours back to Memphis same duty period. Shouldnt that be first class. I think its on Mesa or Mesaba so probably not First class anyway.
Section 8.A. Deadheading - General
4.b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if: a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours. However, if a domestic duty period does not exceed 11:30 and a deadhead within that duty period does not exceed 1:30 (OAG) block, the deadhead may be scheduled in coach.
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Well the TAFB is 1133 so I guess I should get it.
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Just called it is on two RJs---Sweet. Yes I was authorized FC. I thought it should have said FC on the pairing.
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Just called it is on two RJs---Sweet. Yes I was authorized FC. I thought it should have said FC on the pairing.
All those scenarios are divided by "or", so the 5 hrs of DH block would have been enough - darn Barbie Jets!
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some have first class seating
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All those scenarios are divided by "or", so the 5 hrs of DH block would have been enough - darn Barbie Jets!
Great concept except, it has to "exceed 5 hours of block" to qualify for 1st class and a 1st class deviation bank

So, with exactly 5 hours of block you are stuck in coach
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All those scenarios are divided by "or", so the 5 hrs of DH block would have been enough - darn Barbie Jets!
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Great concept except, it has to "exceed 5 hours of block" to qualify for 1st class and a 1st class deviation bank

So, with exactly 5 hours of block you are stuck in coach
I think the OP meant the D/H was 3.5, on the ground for 1.5 and then he operated for another 2.0. So, no First Class based on D/H(over 5) or combination of D/H + BLK(over 8) flight times, period.
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