aflouisville

We all know that the % of screw ups is about the same for line or Mgt at UPS is very similar. Most pilots (line or Mgt) take their flying very seriously.

aflouisville

We all know EH is the anomaly. And I am told there is a reason why.

Pilot7576

well...tell us what his problem is?

Pilot7576

aflouisville

No clue on that omen

aflouisville

EH is a loser. He should have been terminated a long time ago

320Driver

That's not at all what I meant with his reference. He is a good guy personally, and a good guy to fly with, actually. I believe he was put in a spot he was not "qualified" for, as were serveral other FQM's. No other airline I know of has 500 hour wonders giving check rides to guys who have five times the experience flying aircraft around the world. Experience in type and and ability should be the primary qualification. That was my point with the EH example. I could have used others, and I regret singling him out...

highsky

For him, it will take an especially long list of problems to can him, if you know what I mean.

fr8rcaptain

UPS has chosen a different business model from FedEx. UPS has consolidated most of the sort to Worldport (KSDF) using widebody aircraft, while FedEx is emphasizing decentralized multiple domestic sorts supported by both widebodies and a larger narrow-body fleet. Mr. Nichols was contrasting these two business models, trying to show the UPS model as the more efficient (read: lower cost) model (and it probably is, but I'm personally not enamored with so many eggs in one basket).

The bean counters at UPS really count the beans well. This company tracks and quantifies EVERYTHING, and tries to find a more efficient (cheaper) way to conduct business. All of this increases the bottom line.

One of the largest impacts on our pilot staffing and block hours actually occurred in 1998, when the Teamsters agreed to team drivers for the feeder trucks (those big semis and doubles you see on the interstates). In short order our daytime domestic block hours were cut by around 30% and most of the regional sorts were closed, along with the Saturday sort in Louisville. The UPS domestic trucking/rail system was now so efficient, they could truck most of the deferred (NOT NDA) volume to Worldport, or a regional gateway, saving $$$$ over actually flying the volume.

aflouisville

You are right. An airplane is just a truck

Freightpuppy

UPS has bought the FAA so yes, I do believe they would tolerate it esp. by management. I thought for sure by now they would have sided with us on the P3 issue and we are still waiting. I was naive to think the FAA would actually do the right thing but once again, money talks.